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Basic Precision: Opening style: How light? Assuming "advanced" pick-up pd

Poll: Do you open this hand in 2nd seat white/white, IMPs? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you open this hand in 2nd seat white/white, IMPs?

  1. Yes, and even without Qd (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  2. Yes, and even if Qd had been Jd (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Yes, but this is an absolute minimum (11 votes [55.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.00%

  4. No, but make Qd the king and I would (8 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  5. No, even if Qd were the king I would not (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   helene_t 

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Posted 2005-July-18, 07:48

Suppose you play with a pick-up partner, having agreed to play basic Precision, 1NT=13-15, few further agreements. What do you think about opening this hand in 2nd seat, white vs white, at IMPs? (Note: You do not play Muiderberg, so the option of opening this hand (or a slightly weaker one) 2♠ is probably not available, unless you have a funny preempt style B) )

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Posted 2005-July-18, 07:57

This is a matter of style, not of system. I, for one, wouldn't open it. If it were with hearts I might open.
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Posted 2005-July-18, 07:57

Absolute minimum for first seat opener.

Not strong enough for 2nd seat opener: 2nd seat bids must be textbook bids because the likelihood it's opps hand have decreased, and any distortion we make 2nd seat is more likely to drive our partner astray rather than disturb opps.

This is a borderline hands for my standards: offensive strength is rated as 7.5 losers, almost an opener; defensive strength is rated as 1.5-2 defensive tricks, = almost an opener.

I might stretch first seat (at white) but not second seat (no matter which vuln).
However, gimme the diamond king instead of the Q and I'll open (at least I'll have 2 full defensive tricks) .
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Posted 2005-July-18, 08:24

Also "yes but absolute minimum" for me. Perhaps for Inquiry it's not minimum B)
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Posted 2005-July-18, 15:51

Barebones minimum...
However, I'd want to be able to open
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Posted 2005-July-18, 15:58

Gerben42, on Jul 18 2005, 10:24 AM, said:

Also "yes but absolute minimum" for me. Perhaps for Inquiry it's not minimum :)

Right you are. I voted open it even without the queen of diamonds (but I assume I can grab the jack of diamonds).

Kxxxx
AJx
Jxxx
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Posted 2005-July-18, 16:06

inquiry, on Jul 19 2005, 12:58 AM, said:

Right you are. I voted open it even without the queen of diamonds (but I assume I can grab the jack of diamonds).

Kxxxx
AJx
Jxxx
x

This is 9 hcp, 3 control points, 13 distributional points for 25 Zar points. Call me wacky, but I open this PLAYING 2over1

And it bugs the ***** out of many of us when you do so
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Posted 2005-July-18, 16:30

Lol, nicely put Richard...I'll concur by saying that I'm not convinced by the soundness of opening that light, particularly using unlimited openings, particularly playing 2/1! BTW, there was a separate option for "yes, and even if Q♦ had been J♦"
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Posted 2005-July-18, 17:40

yup, i open 1♦ :unsure:

but it's a minimum opening
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