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#1 User is offline   mikl_plkcc 

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Posted Yesterday, 15:49



After 3NT, I had slam interest but didn't know what to bid, and I lied a to bid 4. 4 would be a sign off, 4 also, and 4NT would show 19-20 HCP, so I couldn't find a bid to describe my hand. The robot raised with 2 card only, which would imply he thought that I had 6-6 as I opened 1!

If the robot bid 3 instead of 3NT in the second round I would have bid RKCB 4NT to seek a slam.

Of course our 5 was doomed. A lot of tables did make 6 or 6NT, but none involved a 3 rebid by South. Some lied a 2NT opening which was followed by a Texas transfer, others started with 1 and followed by either a lie of 2NT or 3NT (which denied 4 ) where the robot removed to , but it didn't attempt to rebid if the opener rebid 3?

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Posted Yesterday, 16:11

While I don't like either of the robot's 2nd or 3rd calls, there's not much you can do about that.

The 4 bid is not a very good choice. It should show more distribution, 5-5 or 6-5 in the black suits. With a relatively balanced hand, 4nt would be a better choice. It sounds like there is no fit (partner could not raise either of your suits and did not rebid 3) so the hand is mostly about whether you can make 6nt. You have a very prime 18 (aces, kings, tens) so I think it's worth the try.
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Posted Yesterday, 16:50

View Postawm, on 2025-March-09, 16:11, said:

While I don't like either of the robot's 2nd or 3rd calls, there's not much you can do about that.

The 4 bid is not a very good choice. It should show more distribution, 5-5 or 6-5 in the black suits. With a relatively balanced hand, 4nt would be a better choice. It sounds like there is no fit (partner could not raise either of your suits and did not rebid 3) so the hand is mostly about whether you can make 6nt. You have a very prime 18 (aces, kings, tens) so I think it's worth the try.

Thanks. My judgement was wrong, the hand was actually worth 19 but I forgot to apply my usual upgrade.

The tables bidding 4NT with the same starting sequence 1 - 2 - 3 - 3NT ended up playing it as the robot didn't raise to 6.
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Posted Yesterday, 22:20

Pretty much everything seems messed up here for GIB.

I was going to say I would have been tempted by 2NT initially given the semi-balanced nature, to allow more space to explore.. but GIB thinks that's 11-14 HCP :( In fact, to GIB a rebid of 2NT after a 2/1 is totally non-existent.

And after 3 and GIB is not even close to having a reasonable way of handling high reverses. Though I suspect a decent number of club players wouldn't have good agreements of how to squeeze everything you need to communicate in either. I'm somewhat surprised it didn't bid 3; it plays that as natural, and that's what a much older version of GIB chooses. I guess they changed that at some point to prefer showing the stopper, at the cost of never rebidding its major..

Perhaps given the limitations of GIB, a leap to 3NT would have worked out best after all, since it will always correct to 4 with a 6 card suit after which you can take control, and given it's described as 17-20 it may bid on otherwise with extras, at the cost of never finding a possible club slam.
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