[Manastorm]

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The question is what did go wrong. Many commentators point that they do not show minors without serious intentions. I couldn't agree more. Most bidding systems have many ways and opportunies to show support to a major, but very few chances to support a minor. I completely disagree that north should bid 3♣ instead of 3♦, since the suit is far too weak. You can't be happy start a slam auction with so bad suit. 3♥ I don't know, because south has to support clubs sooner or later. If partner settles to 3NT, then you can happily, I assume, bid 4♣ . What is the difference between a direct support and deferred I don't know in this context. I add that after 3♦ south has to take north seriously, you just can't bid minors spuriously, what if partner supports the minor. What went was south forgot to support partner in time. 3 ♥ was a calculated risk, but then you have to be able land on your feet, which didn't happen.
Some of the comments Caprera wrote made me think he wasn't playing with Annie, because we have learned from previous threads that she is a capable player, Caprera should always assume so to avoid a mess like this.

[Cyberyeti]

4♠ is a cue for clubs, don't pass 5♥

[Manastorm]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-January-11, 09:46, said:

4♠ is a cue for clubs, don't pass 5♥

My initial view was the same, but I didn't think other options, which could alter the view. That is why I decided to delete my view on what happened after 4♣. I just can't say what to do with various hands. If south has support it is fairly easy to reason that 4♦ is of course real diamonds, 4♥ even longer hearts or good enough to play without higher aspirations, 4♠ support for clubs, what else could it be, 4NT want to play and so on. If you take into account what happened earlier in the bidding, it becames very difficult to construct hands, which are consistent. There are going to be a lot of hands, which lack primary support, but want tell something positive.

[mike777]

Manastorm, on 2025-January-11, 08:59, said:

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The question is what did go wrong. Many commentators point that they do not show minors without serious intentions. I couldn't agree more. Most bidding systems have many ways and opportunies to show support to a major, but very few chances to support a minor. I completely disagree that north should bid 3♣ instead of 3♦, since the suit is far too weak. You can't be happy start a slam auction with so bad suit. 3♥ I don't know, because south has to support clubs sooner or later. If partner settles to 3NT, then you can happily, I assume, bid 4♣ . What is the difference between a direct support and deferred I don't know in this context. I add that after 3♦ south has to take north seriously, you just can't bid minors spuriously, what if partner supports the minor. What went was south forgot to support partner in time. 3 ♥ was a calculated risk, but then you have to be able land on your feet, which didn't happen.
Some of the comments Caprera wrote made me think he wasn't playing with Annie, because we have learned from previous threads that she is a capable player, Caprera should always assume so to avoid a mess like this.

No alerts so will assume one club is a typo and 1H was opened. Agree strongly 3H was the biggest mistake, rebid 4c, especially since I believe they are playing Kickback where 4d will be RKC.

Minor point, look into playing Schuler Shift when rebidding majors after 2/1. It is controversial but worth a discussion. I think it helps but comes with a cost.

[smerriman]

mike777, on 2025-January-11, 13:57, said:

No alerts so will assume one club is a typo and 1H was opened.

1♣ was precision.

[mike777]

smerriman, on 2025-January-11, 14:15, said:

1♣ was precision.

If so, then lets set trump with 3clubs...and investigate a grand slam...
2 Clubs cant be some random junky suit or a random junky positive...

[paulg]

smerriman, on 2025-January-11, 14:15, said:

1♣ was precision.

mike777, on 2025-January-11, 14:19, said:

If so, then lets set trump with 3clubs...and investigate a grand slam...
2 Clubs cant be some random junky suit or a random junky positive...

I think it can be either of those things. What else do you bid with a 3145 or 3046 and positive values?

Although the final result is silly, these things can happen when the auction does not time out well. Both the 3♥ and 4♣ bids are dubious in my opinion but might work out better on different hands: things then got out of hand.

Bridge is just hard at times and even a 50-year partnership can demonstrate this.