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2C opener, missed slam

#21 User is offline   mikl_plkcc 

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Posted Yesterday, 18:41

View Postjohnu, on 2025-January-11, 18:33, said:

Where is 3NT defined??? Why would a flat, 23 HCP hand jump to 3NT, taking up an entire round of bidding for absolutely not reason?


Sounds like your "system" has a lot of holes that need to be fixed.

I was a newcomer at the club and it was a first time partnership, so we hadn't defined many things. And there was no way for us to show a single minor after a 2NT opening as well (we agreed that 3 over a 2NT opening was minor suit Stayman).
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Posted Yesterday, 19:33

 mikl_plkcc, on 2025-January-11, 18:41, said:

I was a newcomer at the club and it was a first time partnership, so we hadn't defined many things. And there was no way for us to show a single minor after a 2NT opening as well (we agreed that 3 over a 2NT opening was minor suit Stayman).

How do you show gf long minor over 1Nt?
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Posted Yesterday, 20:23

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2025-January-11, 18:37, said:

The opener fast arrived at 3NT because we had 32 points at a maximum, so he didn't think we should try a slam.

Then I decided not to bid 5 over 3NT because 3NT is almost always better than a 5 of a minor.

Both 6 and 6NT were makeable on other tables.

Do you think that, in general, traditional response to 2 (where anything other than 2 shows at least a good 5-card suit) is better than step responses?

The 33 points for slam absolutely positively did not mean highcard points when it was formulated. Which casts further doubt on pointcount steps.
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Posted Yesterday, 21:24

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-January-11, 14:37, said:

Presumably are shown via 2N so you have to bid 3N to show the balanced hand?

Why would anybody want to bid like that?
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Posted Yesterday, 22:36

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-January-11, 07:25, said:

Classically 2-3
but I play
2-2
2N 22-23-3 puppet to 3N
3N-4 SI

This is how I would have liked to start. My former partner and I hadn't quite gotten that far but it was on my list of things to add (see https://www.advinbri...k-in-bridge/225 ). But I think it's still a little tricky even with that start.
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Posted Today, 01:32

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2025-January-11, 18:37, said:

The opener fast arrived at 3NT because we had 32 points at a maximum, so he didn't think we should try a slam.

Then I decided not to bid 5 over 3NT because 3NT is almost always better than a 5 of a minor.

Both 6 and 6NT were makeable on other tables.

Do you think that, in general, traditional response to 2 (where anything other than 2 shows at least a good 5-card suit) is better than step responses?

5 cards in a Major, 6 in a minor is the flavour I originally learnt, but that was a long time ago.
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