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Posted 2025-January-06, 11:39

Sud opener
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Posted 2025-January-06, 12:54

Playing reverse 'birthright'; maybe not for this forum, but I'd still start with 2♣
2♣-2♦
2♥-2♠
3♣ 5♥ - 3♠ Puppet to 3N
3N - 4♦ 3♥, ♦ ctrl
4♠ even KCs - 6♥ all KCs Q♥
7♥ looks OK with this shape and the ♦ ctrl bid
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Posted 2025-January-06, 13:09

I could see something like 1♦ - (P) - 1N - (3♠) - 4♥ - (4♠) - 5♥ - (P) - 6♥.
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Posted 2025-January-06, 13:10

1♦, there's no need to panic yet.
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Posted 2025-January-06, 13:44

 jillybean, on 2025-January-06, 13:10, said:

1♦, there's no need to panic yet.

I believe the actual quote is
Don't Panic

Or

Time is just an illusion.
Lunchtime, doubly so
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Posted 2025-January-06, 15:24

 smerriman, on 2025-January-06, 13:09, said:

I could see something like 1♦ - (P) - 1N - (3♠) - 4♥ - (4♠) - 5♥ - (P) - 6♥.


It should start something like that and I would be pleased if our N/B arrived at more hearts than the opponents bid spades.

At Advanced level on both sides I would hope for something like
1♦ (P) - 1N (3♠)
4♥ (P) - 4♠ (P)
4N(even kc) (P) - 5♦ (P)
6♣ (P) - 7♥ (P)
P (P)

N can place S with at least ♠- ♥AKxxx ♦Axxxxx ♣AK
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Posted 2025-January-06, 16:04

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-January-06, 12:54, said:

Playing reverse 'birthright'; maybe not for this forum, but I'd still start with 2♣
2♣-2♦
2♥-2♠
3♣ 5♥ - 3♠ Puppet to 3N
3N - 4♦ 3♥, ♦ ctrl
4♠ even KCs - 6♥ all KCs Q♥
7♥ looks OK with this shape and the ♦ ctrl bid


So what do you do over 2♣-P-2♦-3♠ ?
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Posted 2025-January-06, 16:33

View PostCyberyeti, on 2025-January-06, 16:04, said:

So what do you do over 2♣-P-2♦-3♠ ?

4♥ show 5 of my Major first.
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Posted 2025-January-06, 20:29

My most likely without intereference

2C - 3C
3H - 4D!
4NT - 5D!
5NT - 6D!
6H

If East intervenes with 3 or 4 Spades who knows where I end up

5 or 6 of something is possible - possibly clubs

I think over 3 spades I can continue with 4 hearts and hopefully find 6
Over 4 spades not so sure - are 3 or 4 spades seen as preempts. One would hope so
EW not vulnerable. Interesting equation
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Posted Today, 02:37

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-January-06, 16:33, said:

4♥ show 5 of my Major first.

I thought I'd expand on this one after further thinking given the hands I exclude from the 2♣ opening which are hands with primary ♦ or those with both minors. I play MAFIA so while ♦ are longer than ♥ I always aim to show the ♥ first.This leaves

Pass Balanced hands without a stopper
X Balanced hands/Spades
3N ♣ or (4441)
4♣ 6♥
.. 4♦ 4-card minor?
4♦ 4+♦5♥
4♥ 4+♣5♥
So in fact my bid would be 4♦
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