[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2024-December-14, 09:54, said:

Here are both hands:

MP

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Maybe I can at least claim the best score of anyone here for an opening bid passed out?
Dismayingly, 6NT+1 was even a vice-top in this practice tournament for the weaker players, above a chorus of 6♥+1 and the inevitable 3NT+4.

If partner opens 6N, why am I not raising, partner's club holding really has to be KQ

[jillybean]

OP said "Such hands are rare and I was chagrined to be opposite a beginner with no agreements for bidding strong hands"

Poor partner is not going to have any idea what to do over 6nt.
I understand this hand called for desperate measures, but unless it was a very important game, you give your partner much more help, and respect by simply bidding your hand. Good to hear it didn't sit well with you.

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2024-December-14, 14:56, said:

OP said "Such hands are rare and I was chagrined to be opposite a beginner with no agreements for bidding strong hands"

Poor partner is not going to have any idea what to do over 6nt.
I understand this hand called for desperate measures, but unless it was a very important game, you give your partner much more help, and respect by simply bidding your hand. Good to hear it didn't sit well with you.

The game was trivial and I was there to help my partner learn bridge.
I would never dream of masterminding a hand that partner should know how to respond, beginner or not. But I felt that in this extreme case it was better to make a bid that was likely to make, rather than either discourage my beginner partner with a bottom that made us both look foolish or punish him with an unusual opening he could never guess. I was a little disappointed that he failed to go the extra mile with those clubs, but he had every reason to assume I had bid his hand rather than have an aircraft carrier.

[jillybean]

pescetom, on 2024-December-14, 15:43, said:

The game was trivial and I was there to help my partner learn bridge.
I would never dream of masterminding a hand that partner should know how to respond, beginner or not. But I felt that in this extreme case it was better to make a bid that was likely to make, rather than either discourage my beginner partner with a bottom that made us both look foolish or punish him with an unusual opening he could never guess. I was a little disappointed that he failed to go the extra mile with those clubs, but he had every reason to assume I had bid his hand rather than have an aircraft carrier.

Did you ask what he would have bid over 2♣?

[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2024-December-14, 16:04, said:

Did you ask what he would have bid over 2♣?

No, I don't want to give him false confidence in this jungle although I expect it would have been 3♣ and then no clear idea over either 3♥ or 4♣ let alone 4♦.
Our agreement for now is that we will not open 2♣, it is a complex artificial bid we will rarely need and he has no real idea of how to handle it.
There are also diplomatic issues here ("don't let mycroft near the beginners") as I retain mainstream 2♣ agreements near to useless anyway and I can't be seen to be in disagreement with the teacher.

This guy is very bright but still regularly passes below game after 2/1. Priorities.

[thepossum]

1 heart

Maybe 2 clubs. Only one forcing bid for me. Take it from there

Hopefully get to ask for Aces

You look as if you could get lucky with heart support

I am impressed with ,6nt

You could have been lucky with raise to 7