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Basic Precision: (Non)forcing after a 2/1 response

Poll: What is forcing after 1M-(pass)-2m ? (17 member(s) have cast votes)

What is forcing after 1M-(pass)-2m ?

  1. Any rebid by opener can be passed except jump(3M) and reverses (2 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  2. Any rebid by opener can be passed except jump(3M) and new suit (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Some of opener's rebids can be passed (specify) (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  4. A 2/1 response promises a rebid, but not more than that (SAYCish) (6 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  5. A 2/1 is GF except 1M-2m-2x-3m and 1M-2m-2M-3m (3 votes [17.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  6. A 2/1 response is 100% GF (5 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  7. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2005-July-15, 05:32

Another poll about Basic Precision, not as you play it with your regular p but as you would play it with a pick-up p.

The classic books (Wei, Goren, Reese) do not say much about how to create a GF after an opening of 1/1 (or 1). Presumably, the forcing character of many calls were lower than in moder bidding theory (this applies to contemporary standard systems as well).

While standard systems have evolved towards 2/1 GF in the meantime, it is not obvious that this should also apply to Precision, since the openings are probably lighter. Anyway, maybe you prefer (or find it more realistic) to play more classic treatments with a pick-up partner.

Some of the auctions which I'm not sure about (forcing or not?):
1-2
3*

1-2
2NT* (since we play 13-15 NT this could be interpreted as 10-12 but maybe we don't open 1NT with a five-card major)

1-2
2-3*

1-2
2*-2NT*

This is somewhat related to (non?)-forcing 1NT response and the meaning of jump shifts, but let's start with the 2/1 responses.
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Posted 2005-July-15, 22:56

original precision played 1M-1NT forcing 1 round, limit major raises (3NT forcing raise), inverted diamond raises, strong jump-shifts, and 1X- 2NT = Baron 2NT (16+). It also used 2-way (2-wei) stayman.
2/1 was not GF.
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