[mw64ahw]

DavidKok, on 2024-November-07, 14:08, said:

I agree with the auction so far.

Tough call. I will go on and bid 4♠, showing a control and inviting partner to ask for key cards. Our hand is mostly aces and we do not have an unexpected source of tricks. I therefore want partner to evaluate our slam prospects.

An awkward auction. Preempts work.

Do you assume 3N is serious/non-serious or an alternative place to play?

[Tramticket]

mw64ahw, on 2024-November-07, 16:48, said:

Do you assume 3N is serious/non-serious or an alternative place to play?

The opening posted stated that 3S might have been asking about a spade stop, the corollary is that 3NT is showing a spade stop and offering to play in 3NT.

[smerriman]

Cyberyeti, on 2024-November-07, 15:34, said:

I actually posted the hand because partner and I weren't 100% sure what 1♦-(2♠)-3♥-3♠-3N-4m showed and whether what it showed was different if the m was ♣/♦

If your definition of 3♠ is what you stated it was (good heart raise or asking for stopper) then they'd have to be controls.

But I don't think that's a good definition; isn't a cue by opener typically more vague / wide-ranging - e.g. it could be a strong one-suited diamonds hand, in which case 4♦ at least is natural. And probably worth distinguishing stronger 5-5s from an immediate 4♣ rebid too.

[mw64ahw]

 Tramticket, on 2024-November-07, 17:17, said:

The opening posted stated that 3S might have been asking about a spade stop, the corollary is that 3NT is showing a spade stop and offering to play in 3NT.

The question was in the context of David bidding 4♠

[thepossum]

 Cyberyeti, on 2024-November-07, 12:23, said:

---

Do you agree with your actions so far ? Are you going on ?

Partner showed either a good raise to 4♥ which he then confirmed when he pulled 3N or a hand that was looking for a spade stop

Late to the thread. I will try to explore slam via cue bid or Blackwood
On another day pass and relax

[Cyberyeti]

 smerriman, on 2024-November-07, 18:05, said:

If your definition of 3♠ is what you stated it was (good heart raise or asking for stopper) then they'd have to be controls.

But I don't think that's a good definition; isn't a cue by opener typically more vague / wide-ranging - e.g. it could be a strong one-suited diamonds hand, in which case 4♦ at least is natural. And probably worth distinguishing stronger 5-5s from an immediate 4♣ rebid too.

This was the point of the matter, I put that it was stop asking/heart raise, but I wasn't sure whether 4m confirmed the heart raise or cancelled that message and said you were bidding a better natural 4m.

[P_Marlowe]

 Cyberyeti, on 2024-November-07, 16:26, said:

If I had the 10 or 9 of spades, I might do that.

Before I reveal if that would have been successful:

The hands are: (with our auction)

---

<snip>

I prefer 4S instead of 3S, I dont like those mysterious cue bids, that safe space, but leaves partner guessing.

[helene_t]

I find it a very easy pass. Two aces are nice but other than that i have a minimum.
P should just ask keycards.