[inquiry]

Scoring: IMP

BPO-OO4D
West   North   East  South
----------------------- 1♣
 Pass     1♠     Pass    2♣
   2♥     3♣      3♥      ?

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[badderzboy]

5♣ gives the opps the last guess 'cos they are always going to bid 4♥ over 4♣ surely?

Steve

[hrothgar]

BP0-004D: 3S

3NT is our best shot at game.
3S is the only way to let partner show a heart stopper.

[P_Marlowe]

5C.

Marlowe

[whereagles]

5♣. Other bids come to mind, like 3♠, 4♦ or 4♥. But 5♣ should do the trick (and double if they bid 5♥).

[Blofeld]

3♠.

We may yet want to play in 3nt, and we may want to bid up to slam. Moreover, if the opponents outbid us, I'd like a spade lead.

5♣ would be my second choice.

[HeartA]

Up to now, I am the only one who bids 4♣.

[Double !]

HeartA, on Jul 12 2005, 02:19 PM, said:

Up to now, I am the only one who bids 4♣.

no you're not! lololol.

No way am I bidding 3S, implying 3-card support. And IMO, P hasn't shown much extra by showing club support in comp. His clubs could be xxx or Hx. P could have rebid spades to show 6 or a good 5. So, I suspect that P is balanced or semibalanced on this hand. I want to see what P does if opps bid 4H. I have 4 1/2 losers. Is P taking care of 2 1/2 of them? Hard to tell. I'll take what I hope will be a plus score at this point.

[luke warm]

i bid 5♣

[mike777]

PASS

I was afraid I would be out on that cold cold limb all alone and I see I am.
Again no one has mentioned good/bad 2nt.
If we are playing good/bad 2nt and if it applies here then 3clubs is stronger than 2nt. I think 3clubs shows extra values but is not forcing.

2clubs promises 6+ clubs and 11-13 HCP often. This is what I got. I do have an extra club but I promised 6+ often.

I think my pass will show short hearts, 11-13 hcp, 6+clubs and deny 3 spades.

The bidding may not be over, partner or opp may bid again.

[bearmum]

I meant to bid 4♣ (but unfortunately misbid 4♦)

[MickyB]

I went for 4♣, but now not so sure...pard bid over 2♥ when I could have been 1435, maybe 5♣ as a two-way shot is best. I don't expect it to give them much of a guess though - it is unlikely to be right for them to compete to 5♥.

[the hog]

Pass. Partner is still there. My hand does not hold any additional surprises apart from the 7th Club card. 5C won't make and is a poor bid.

Ask yourselves why loh passed my 1C opening and came in on the second round of the auction.

[Fluffy]

I think I will be kinda alone on this one.

[flytoox]

The_Hog, on Jul 13 2005, 02:38 AM, said:

Pass. Partner is still there. My hand does not hold any additional surprises apart from the 7th Club card. 5C won't make and is a poor bid.

Ask yourselves why loh passed my 1C opening and came in on the second round of the auction.

I dont think pd can do much if you pass. His 3C has clearly bid out his hand. In comparison, your 2C didnt fully discribe your hand. So I think opener should do sth rather than expect pd to act.


I think pass is worse than 4/5 C. Whether the opener should bid 4C or 5C I donot know.

[whereagles]

flytoox, on Jul 13 2005, 08:59 AM, said:

I dont think pd can do much if you pass. His 3C has clearly bid out his hand. In comparison, your 2C didnt fully discribe your hand. So I think opener should do sth rather than expect pd to act.

A correct evaluation of the situation. Pard might have already streched to bid 3♣, so it is very likely he'll aching to pass as soon as possible. Failure to draw this simple inference will, in all likelyhood, lead to letting the matter rest in 3♥ and a bad score.

Now is the time to assume one's responsibilities and bid

[cherdano]

Fluffy, on Jul 13 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

I think I will be kinda alone on this one.

I bet against that.

Arend

[MickyB]

cherdano, on Jul 13 2005, 11:27 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jul 13 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

I think I will be kinda alone on this one.

I bet against that.

Arend

Tell me what your bid was Fluffy and I'll join in the betting! 6♣? 4♥? 3N? X?

[the hog]

whereagles, on Jul 13 2005, 07:56 PM, said:

flytoox, on Jul 13 2005, 08:59 AM, said:

I dont think pd can do much if you pass. His 3C has clearly bid out his hand. In comparison, your 2C didnt fully discribe your hand. So I think opener should do sth rather than expect pd to act.

A correct evaluation of the situation. Pard might have already streched to bid 3♣, so it is very likely he'll aching to pass as soon as possible. Failure to draw this simple inference will, in all likelyhood, lead to letting the matter rest in 3♥ and a bad score.

Now is the time to assume one's responsibilities and bid

The scoring is Imps. 5C not making, and especially when doubled will not be a result you would wish to bring back to the score up table. And again many have ignored the bidding! If you think your responsibilities are to bring back losing scores, well then who am I to argue....

[whereagles]

hoggie, hoggie.. you seem to be more worried with your teammates' reaction than with the hand itself

I agree 5♣ may be a bit of strecht, but it should be clear that the onus is on opener to act.