[Cyberyeti]

We just played a very fine set of bridge (72.2%), only 18 boards, 13 75%+, 4 50% and one zero, which is this board.

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2♥ is cold for 3, we held it to 2 but still got a zero, who should get involved ? or is it just a fix ? Diamonds break, 3♦ is -1, 3♠ also -1 if they bid 3♥. I seriously considered reentering the auction with 2♠ on the end, but thought partner might have a near yarborough with long clubs.

[bluenikki]

Cyberyeti, on 2024-May-17, 16:46, said:

We just played a very fine set of bridge (72.2%), only 18 boards, 13 75%+, 4 50% and one zero, which is this board.

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2♥ is cold for 3, we held it to 2 but still got a zero, who should get involved ? or is it just a fix ? Diamonds break, 3♦ is -1, 3♠ also -1 if they bid 3♥. I seriously considered reentering the auction with 2♠ on the end, but thought partner might have a near yarborough with long clubs.

East has a _good_ hand. East knows that West does not have a long club suit. Double of 2♦ would _not_ show long strong diamonds: 3♦ shows that.

[shyams]

More likely just a case of bad luck.

East's 1♦ is routine, so the likely issue may be that South's 1NT was a bit suspect and was not repeated at other tables.

[DavidKok]

I would like to do something with the West hand. When partner opens 1♦ you know the opponents have a heart fit (unless partner has 5 hearts, i.e. 6 diamonds, i.e. we want to play in diamonds) and we have a diamond fit so it's good to compete. I don't know whether your methods allow for this, but passing twice can't be right.

[Cyberyeti]

bluenikki, on 2024-May-17, 20:04, said:

East has a _good_ hand. East knows that West does not have a long club suit. Double of 2♦ would _not_ show long strong diamonds: 3♦ shows that.

How does E know W doesn't have xx, xxx, xx, xxxxxxx or similar ?

[TMorris]

Assuming that 1 ♦ shows four I would bid 2 ♦ at once by West.

[Cyberyeti]

TMorris, on 2024-May-18, 01:37, said:

Assuming that 1 ♦ shows four I would bid 2 ♦ at once by West.

It is very likely exactly 4 with the diamonds badly placed, we open all hands with only 4 card suits outside our weak NT range 1♦ if diamonds are one of the suits.

Who is doing what after 1♦-(1N)-2♦-(2♥) anyway ?

[mw64ahw]

As West playing an unbalanced ♦ I would compete after transfer completion usually expecting opener to have 5m and 5431 so find a 9-card fit. In this case opener turns up with 4441 so we settle in ♠.

After 1N 3♣ P/C is also possible the way I play

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2024-May-18, 05:00, said:

As West playing an unbalanced ♦ I would compete after transfer completion usually expecting opener to have 5m and 5431 so find a 9-card fit. In this case opener turns up with 4441 so we settle in ♠.

After 1N 3♣ P/C is also possible the way I play

You are not playing an unbalanced diamond, you would have opened 1♦ with any strong NT with diamonds

[mikeh]

It sounds as if the opps may have done something different than at other tables, probably the 1N overcall wasn’t made elsewhere…at least that’s the most logical sounding inference I can see.

One of the realities of mp bridge, especially in weak or mediocre fields, is that once in a while ‘bad’ or weird actions by the opps give one a bad board that is simply unavoidable without descending to their level of badness or weirdness, which is never a good idea.

Worrying about being ‘fixed’ is a waste of energy.

The very idea of bidding as west strikes me as a desire to get a zero, and east clearly has no rational choice at any stage after 1D. I think anyone seriously arguing for action by either is seriously misguided.

[Cyberyeti]

The 1N almost certainly occurred at one table (Kx, Q9x, Qxx, AKQxx) as it was left to play there for 90. The other was 3♦-2 for 100 where I don't know how they got there.

It was a weak club game and you're not vulnerable, so unless there's a horrible break, you're unlikely to get doubled.

[AL78]

At my very mixed standard club I suspect one or two would raise diamonds at the first opportunity. Not saying that is right and I'm not sure if I would have the guts to do that after RHO has advertised a defensive hand with values in our suit, could easily end up as -300. At my club there are players who will take liberties against weak players in the bidding because they are confident they will not get doubled.