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Yesterday we won the prestigous "Teams Disneyland", the most important event I've ever won I think. (Mice vs Ducks, I don't remember which team I represented, though). We agreed to play classic Precision. East is a reasonably good player (no gold-star), West is me.
1♣ 1NT
2♣ 2♠
4♣
What does 4♣ mean?
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Posted 2005-July-11, 02:33
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Posted 2005-July-11, 03:43
helene_t, on Jul 11 2005, 09:33 PM, said:
Yesterday we won the prestigous "Teams Disneyland", the most important event I've ever won I think. We agreed to play classic Precision. East is a reasonably good player (no gold-star), West is me.
1♣ 1NT
2♣ 2♠
4♣
What does 4♣ mean?
1♣ 1NT
2♣ 2♠
4♣
What does 4♣ mean?
First -- Congratulations on your wonderful win
Unfortunately I have LOST my CC Wei Precision book ( written goodness HOW many years ago) but I think 4♣ here is a splinter agreeing spades
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Posted 2005-July-11, 19:02
I assume the sequence has these meanings:
1♣ - strong and artificial
1NT - natural, something like 8-12 HCP
2♣ - something like stayman
2♠ - natural, 4 card suit
This sounds so much like an ordinary 1N sequence that I'd like the 4♣ bid to have the same meaning as after we've opened 1NT. And I'd want to play it as a splinter in support of spades - I'm no great believer in ace asking.
Andy
1♣ - strong and artificial
1NT - natural, something like 8-12 HCP
2♣ - something like stayman
2♠ - natural, 4 card suit
This sounds so much like an ordinary 1N sequence that I'd like the 4♣ bid to have the same meaning as after we've opened 1NT. And I'd want to play it as a splinter in support of spades - I'm no great believer in ace asking.
Andy
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Posted 2005-July-11, 19:08
Same answer as Limey for me, that 4C should be whatever you play 1NT-2C-2S-4C as. In my case that means RKC in spades, as I like to put all the splinters into 3H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-July-11, 23:41
To the best of my knowledge, this was never really clarified in wei's original book.
2C definitely stayman.
Opener could have rebid 3C/1NT to show strong club suit hand.
Forget that opener opened 1C.
Supposed the bidding went 1NT-2C-2S-4C? what would that mean to you. My guess is that's what it means in the sequence that you just gave.
and I haven't been able to find my wei book in decades (or is that decadence?).
Just checked out my Goren and my Reese Precision books: neither address the sequence you mention.
My guess is that it is Gerber, (or beachnut) ye olde ace-asking bid.
2C definitely stayman.
Opener could have rebid 3C/1NT to show strong club suit hand.
Forget that opener opened 1C.
Supposed the bidding went 1NT-2C-2S-4C? what would that mean to you. My guess is that's what it means in the sequence that you just gave.
and I haven't been able to find my wei book in decades (or is that decadence?).
Just checked out my Goren and my Reese Precision books: neither address the sequence you mention.
My guess is that it is Gerber, (or beachnut) ye olde ace-asking bid.
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Posted 2005-July-15, 16:40
helene_t, on Jul 11 2005, 10:33 AM, said:
Yesterday we won the prestigous "Teams Disneyland", the most important event I've ever won I think. (Mice vs Ducks, I don't remember which team I represented, though). We agreed to play classic Precision. East is a reasonably good player (no gold-star), West is me.
1♣ 1NT
2♣ 2♠
4♣
What does 4♣ mean?
1♣ 1NT
2♣ 2♠
4♣
What does 4♣ mean?
In Belladonna/Garozzo it means CAB(Control asking Bid). In this case 1st step will be 3 controls.
All jumps to 4♣ are CAB unless if clubs has been bidden naturally. Then CAB is substituted by 4♦. If good values have been shown response scale starts by 3 else by 1.
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