[Shugart23]

Playing precision, how do you/ the partnership bid the hands? (asking bids are available, assuming you use them)

Your hand A spades AK84 hearts AKQxxx diamonds xx clubs
Partner has KQ9xxx spades QJ32 hearts J4 diamonds Q clubs

Pre=apologies on my formatting

[mw64ahw]

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[awm]

Asking bids are overrated.

1♣ (strong) - 1♠ (natural)
2♦ (natural) - 2♥ (natural)
3♥ (natural) - 3♠ (1st or 2nd round control)
3NT (serious) - 4♣ (1st or 2nd round control)
4♠ (kickback RKC) - 4NT (zero)
5♣ (ask queen) - 5♠ (♠K + ♥Q)
6♥ - Pass

Of course relays work too:

1♣ (strong) - 1♥ (4+♠, 5+ hcp, 2-6 RP)
1♠ (relay) - 3♥ (6421 in that order)
3♠ (relay) - 4♥ (6 RP with 0 or 2 of ♠AKQ)
4♠ (relay) - 5♣ (1 or 3 of ♥AKQ, 0 or 2 of ♦AKQ)
6♥

[Shugart23]

awm, on 2024-March-13, 12:00, said:

Asking bids are overrated.

1♣ (strong) - 1♠ (natural)
2♦ (natural) - 2♥ (natural)
3♥ (natural) - 3♠ (1st or 2nd round control)
3NT (serious) - 4♣ (1st or 2nd round control)
4♠ (kickback RKC) - 4NT (zero)
5♣ (ask queen) - 5♠ (♠K + ♥Q)
6♥ - Pass

Of course relays work too:

1♣ (strong) - 1♥ (4+♠, 5+ hcp, 2-6 RP)
1♠ (relay) - 3♥ (6421 in that order)
3♠ (relay) - 4♥ (6 RP with 0 or 2 of ♠AKQ)
4♠ (relay) - 5♣ (1 or 3 of ♥AKQ, 0 or 2 of ♦AKQ)
6♥

Thanks ! Having never played Standard American, can anyone who knows SA show how they would bid it ?

[pescetom]

Playing Italian style 2/1 it might easily go:

1♦ - 1♠
2♥ - 4♣ (SPL)
4♦ (CTL) - 4♠ (CTL, !♥)
4NT (even KC) - 6♥
P

[PrecisionL]

C3 - Copious Canape Club:

1♣ - 1NT (majors) -

2♥ (setting trumps & Beta) - 2♠ (1-2 Controls) -

3♣ (CAB) - 3♦ (No control) -

6♥ - - -

SAYC: 1♦ - 1♠ - 2♥ - 3♥ - 4NT - 5♦ (1430) - 6♥ - - -

[Douglas43]

pescetom, on 2024-March-13, 16:58, said:

Playing Italian style 2/1 it might easily go:

1♦ - 1♠
2♥ - 4♣ (SPL)
4♦ (CTL) - 4♠ (CTL, !♥)
4NT (even KC) - 6♥
P

Pretty much the same in Acol

[bluenikki]

PrecisionL, on 2024-March-14, 14:22, said:

SAYC: 1♦ - 1♠ - 2♥ - 3♥ - 4NT - 5♦ (1430) - 6♥ - - -

4NT??

[blackshoe]

"No, I don't know Precision, but I do know Standard American, and what better reason could I have for playing Precision?" -- The Hideous Hog

What's an RP?

[DavidKok]

Relay point. There's a few different ways to count them but the standard is A=3, K=2, Q=1 (as opposed to 'controls', A=2, K=1), possibly with adjustments for honours in short suits.

[foobar]

DavidKok, on 2024-March-17, 02:53, said:

Relay point. There's a few different ways to count them but the standard is A=3, K=2, Q=1 (as opposed to 'controls', A=2, K=1), possibly with adjustments for honours in short suits.

A.k.a., QPs (Queen points), or even ZZ points if you happen to read the AEC club notes .

[Cascade]

Any system that identifies the singleton club and the ♥Q in the south hand will get to game.

We bid

1♣ 1♥ - 4+ hearts
1♠ 1NT - 4+ spades unbalanced
2♣ 3♥ - 6=4=2=1
3♠ 3NT - 4-6 queen points (stiff ♣Q does not count)
4♣ 4♦ - 4 queen points
4♥ 4NT - weak diamonds (no top honour) so at least ♠Hxxxxx ♥Qxxx ♦xx ♣x, could be ♣K (and ♠Q).
5♣ 5♠ - two spade honours, one heart honour, no ♠J.
6♥