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#1 User is online   thepossum 

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Posted 2024-January-30, 20:13

I considered a pass here but like to trust my partner

Seriously using a heart cue bid too



What's wrong with part scores or even trying to defend

But passing was the winning bid lol

Maybe if I pass the cue bid it gets doubled and we can take out into 4. Still a bad score. What's wrong with 3
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Posted 2024-January-31, 10:23

2 makes 3.

There are many hands where 3NT will make if you have a heart stopper. If the K was onside doubleton here, it probably would - and if you had Kx, even more likely.

When you don't, you are in a 30-point deck with at least 20 of them and a good fit. And vulnerable at IMPs (I assume). Remember, 40% games pay VUL at IMPs.

Not the worst game I've been in - not even the worst game I've brought home. And I'll be in worse (with a human partner) next month, if not next week.

Your play was an unlucky guess - you make 4 if you drop the K after the ruff. And yes, even -1 in 4 beats 3=. And that would be good.

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Now, you probably won't complain about your Lose 8 against +600 (who underleads the A?) as your posts are usually "Robot got me way too high", but smerriman would.
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Posted 2024-January-31, 10:46

I would not open South's hand, am I getting old?
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Posted 2024-January-31, 11:50

I guess you make all the games your human partners put you in.
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Posted 2024-February-02, 05:04

I find that robots frequently bid even though passed hands. By that, I mean that after several rounds, it may become clear that partner and I have something in an unbid suit - either a makeable contract or as a good sacrifice. I expect robots to pass since they have passed (usually twice). The next thing I know, I'm getting raised in the suit I bid and going down from the makeable contract that I bid or going down such that the sacrifice is no longer a good score for me.

For me, such bids are great and with human players, they work well. And, I know that my partner won't take me out of my bid. To do them well, though, I have to keep track of them in order to make sure that the success rate is over 50%. If under 50%, that means that I'm missing something in play, either in the interpretation of my hands, the bidding, or how the rest of the tables' would likely play the hand.

I usually forget robots' typical responses, especially first thing in the morning! Best regards.

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