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New BPO poll coming Thurday, July 7th - earlier posting time

#21 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2005-July-07, 08:44

Elianna, on Jul 7 2005, 01:26 PM, said:

 

> This question makes no sense. What do you mean, what do I do?

Well, I think asking you what you do with the messages you receive is a perfectly valid and well-formulated question. Hardly devoid of sense, I would say :lol:


> I score everyone's answers and determine a winner. I also now compile the answers per question,
> and post them in each question thread.

Ok, now I know what you do with them.


> I think that maybe you need to look around this forum a bit more carefully.

Agree. But don't have much time to do it.
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Posted 2005-July-07, 19:37

I have no problem with having my votes shown in a table. I don't really care if I score 300 or 600 but its fun to see how you stack up against others. Further, there should be a YTD leader as well.

As bridge players we are all competitive by nature anyway. Does the ACBL only show the top half of the field on their recap sheets?

If some don't want their names posted, label them 'anonymous' or let them choose a code name.
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Posted 2005-July-07, 21:46

I myself don't care much if my name is listed or not. For the three sets of problem, I was not a winner, but above median (I voted too late on 2nd set. would have been above median as well).

For some questions I score low, I still think my choice was the best. So even if I score below median, I wouldn't feel humiliated.
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Posted 2005-July-08, 00:34

HeartA, on Jul 8 2005, 05:46 AM, said:

For some questions I score low, I still think my choice was the best. So even if I score below median, I wouldn't feel humiliated.

Good point. There is no right and no wrong answer. The votes of the panel (even if unanimous) are not necessarily the truth, merely a view on what that individual judges to be best in the circumstances.

Accordingly, there is nothing humiliating about having a different view from even world class players. You can't prove what would work best at the table with your partner against those opponents.

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Posted 2005-July-08, 01:48

I'm sure I'll always score below average because my ideas on bidding are often different than mainstream opinions.
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Posted 2005-July-08, 02:07

helene_t, on Jul 7 2005, 11:16 AM, said:

I'm sorry to hear that you will not participate, Whereagles, I think your opinions on bidding issues are sound and you could make a positive contribution to the poll.

I always enjoy reading whereeagles opinions, and maybe you can change your mind and still participate. Having said that, whereeagles hasn't exactly struck me as a sound bidder :unsure:

Arend :(
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Posted 2005-July-08, 02:22

I suck at defensive play. That's why I bid recklessly, so as to try and play the hand :unsure:
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Posted 2005-July-08, 03:56

whereagles, on Jul 8 2005, 08:48 PM, said:

I'm sure I'll always score below average because my ideas on bidding are often different than mainstream opinions.

LOL --- mine too (especially when the answers are according to BBO Adv ) :( :unsure: BUT it doesn't stop me attempting to get them right :)
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Posted 2005-July-08, 04:53

i don't see that it matters much.. before the results are known, most of us defend our answers... if anyone cared they could always total up someone's score... it wouldn't bother me a bit for my score to be shown
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Posted 2005-July-10, 00:31

whereagles, on Jul 8 2005, 03:22 AM, said:

I suck at defensive play.

Somehow I doubt the validity of this assertion.
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Posted 2005-July-10, 00:58

whereagles, on Jul 8 2005, 02:48 AM, said:

I'm sure I'll always score below average because my ideas on bidding are often different than mainstream opinions.

Here-in lies one of the problems with bidding polls such as these when viewed as a contest. Credit is given for predicting as much as possible what the majority of the panel will bid and/or say about the hand. Veer to far from that and you lose many points even if your rationale is totally sound or at least makes more sense than the mainstream responses. However, unless I very much misunderstood the reasons for these polls (or "contests"), we are not striving to build the best mouse trap here, but instead trying to establish a wider base of guidelines, commonality or understanding among a greater number of people who will agree to play BBO Basic or Advanced. ( so that there will be fewer gross misunderstandings, frustration, and better results (and happier players :unsure: ). These polls are not to prove one person's approach to be the best mouse trap (although I feel that a truly creative and effective suggestion/ method for handling a difficult bidding situation should be recognizied and reinforced.) It's to increase the level of agreement among the greatest number of players at as high a level of quality as possible.

or so I thought

probably wrong again,..oh, well (sigh)
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Posted 2005-July-10, 07:35

i just want to know why people bid what they bid, to better understand the thought processes that go into judgment calls
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Posted 2005-July-10, 09:10

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whereagles, on Jul 8 2005, 03:22 AM, said:

I suck at defensive play.

Somehow I doubt the validity of this assertion.

Well, ok.. When I'm concentrated my defense is good. But if I'm tired, my 'autopilot' makes defensive mistakes frequently :unsure:

luke warm said:

i just want to know why people bid what they bid, to better understand the thought processes that go into judgment calls

That may not be the main purpose of the problems, but it sure is the most useful thing one can take out of them.
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Posted 2005-July-12, 15:42

luke warm, on Jul 10 2005, 08:35 AM, said:

i just want to know why people bid what they bid, to better understand the thought processes that go into judgment calls

Me, too.
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