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I fully appreciate many posts have been made regarding GIB bidding, it would just take so long to go through them all.
I just had a GIB tournament and a bid that was so wrong.
I opened 1 spade and my GIB partner responded 1NT. At this point I would assume probably 6-10 points with a balanced hand maybe.
Ops inter-bid with 2D after my partners 1NT to which my GIB partner responded with a double.
I clicked on bid explanation and it read 1- spades with biddable diamonds.
He actually had 3 spades to the king (the suit I opened with) and only 2 diamonds but he had 11 HCP.
Sorry but that makes no sense whatsoever.
I was always taught if I had 3 of my partners opening major suit I should support this straight away.
Therefore even clicking on a bid explanation sometimes cannot be trusted.
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Posted 2023-May-19, 08:28
with 3 spades and 11 pts the normal bid is 1N forcing
to be followed up with 3♠
Doubling, GIB has decided 2♦ is going down more than making in spades
It is a poor choice to make a penalty double without having shown prime support for partner
to be followed up with 3♠
Doubling, GIB has decided 2♦ is going down more than making in spades
It is a poor choice to make a penalty double without having shown prime support for partner
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Posted 2023-May-19, 13:31
Thank you for the response and noted.
The bid explanation was still crazy.
The bid explanation was still crazy.
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Posted 2023-May-19, 13:53
Can you post the full hand? 1NT is definitely right as GIB plays 2/1. Double does sound odd but it would be nice to see if something else was going on that you might have missed, as something sounds a little off to me.
After 1♠ (P) 1N (2♦) P (P), GIB bids 3♠ every time I try hands that match what you stated.
But it's a little hard to tell as you missed a few passes - if you thought 1NT was 6-10 and you passed and it was in fact your LHO who bid 2♦, I can see things going haywire and GIB doubling then, as it isn't really programmed to handle someone passing a forcing bid.
(PS - as a complete aside - if you were taught SAYC rather than 2/1, it's still not true that you should support immediately - an immediate 3♠ in that system would show 4 spades. In that case, with an invitational hand, you're meant to bid another suit at the two level, then 3♠ the next round. A 1NT response in SAYC does show 6-10, but doesn't say anything about having a balanced hand - just that you're too weak to bid a suit at the two level).
After 1♠ (P) 1N (2♦) P (P), GIB bids 3♠ every time I try hands that match what you stated.
But it's a little hard to tell as you missed a few passes - if you thought 1NT was 6-10 and you passed and it was in fact your LHO who bid 2♦, I can see things going haywire and GIB doubling then, as it isn't really programmed to handle someone passing a forcing bid.
(PS - as a complete aside - if you were taught SAYC rather than 2/1, it's still not true that you should support immediately - an immediate 3♠ in that system would show 4 spades. In that case, with an invitational hand, you're meant to bid another suit at the two level, then 3♠ the next round. A 1NT response in SAYC does show 6-10, but doesn't say anything about having a balanced hand - just that you're too weak to bid a suit at the two level).
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