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Posted 2023-March-06, 16:56

View Postmw64ahw, on 2023-March-06, 15:30, said:

I force the issue with 4 showing 2KCs

Unfortunately,that is not available in our system.
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Posted 2023-March-06, 22:55

Here is the full hand.
Dealer East



I'm East, our auction started off 1D:2NT (misbid)
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Posted 2023-March-06, 23:22

View Postjillybean, on 2023-March-05, 23:42, said:

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Playing inverted minors, 2 is gf, 3 is preemptive, 2 is gf


I was going to say why limit yourself with 2 GF options
Seems the thread has progressed already :)
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Posted 2023-March-07, 00:00

View Postjillybean, on 2023-March-06, 11:23, said:

How does Opener continue after a L/R, is a new suit ostensibly probing for NT? what are your agreements?
The answer could change openers rebid.


Responder should be denying a major suit, so typical agreements with partners are that new suits are NT probes. If there is one available suit, it shows values. If there is more than one, it asks for values. So in this situation, we would have the auction:

1D - 3C
3H - 3S

And now it's up to opener to bid 3NT with a spade stopper. If not, we'll probably wind up in 5D unless opener has enough to look for slam.
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Posted 2023-March-07, 00:18

View Postsfi, on 2023-March-07, 00:00, said:

Responder should be denying a major suit, so typical agreements with partners are that new suits are NT probes. If there is one available suit, it shows values. If there is more than one, it asks for values. So in this situation, we would have the auction:

1D - 3C
3H - 3S

And now it's up to opener to bid 3NT with a spade stopper. If not, we'll probably wind up in 5D unless opener has enough to look for slam.


Opener will bid 4 / 3 but the auction has morphed into a 1D:2D LR+ now :)
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Posted 2023-March-07, 00:57

Jilly, I would not play inverted minors as GF. Sure it is playable, but you get better mileage out of just forcing imo. Then again, I open most good 11s.
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