[PrecisionL]

nullve, on 2022-June-18, 01:02, said:

Because?

What is your reference? Siniscalco Chiaradia was the creator of Neapolitan.

Forquet and Garozzo with Mingoni authored The Italian Blue Team Bridge Book, 1969.

Originally published in Italian under the title "Il Fiori Blue Team, 1967"

Maybe you read Danny Kleinman's analysis where Garozzo & Forquet deviated so much from their agreements that it was had to tell what system they were playing?

Noted in "Under The Table" book by Avon.

[johnu]

nullve, on 2022-June-18, 01:02, said:

Because?

Read "Under the Table", the case against the Blue Team, by Avon Wilsmore. The book details suspicious bidding and play by Blue Team members.

[bluenikki]

PrecisionL, on 2022-June-18, 14:59, said:

What is your reference? Siniscalco was the creator of Neapolitan.

Forquet and Garozzo with Mingoni authored The Italian Blue Team Bridge Book, 1969.

Originally published in Italian under the title "Il Fiori Blue Team, 1967"

Maybe you read Danny Kleinman's analysis where Garozzo & Forquet deviated so much from their agreements that it was had to tell what system they were playing?

Chiaradia, not Siniscalco

[avonw]

Here is an article that has some instances of "interesting" Blue Team actions:

http://bridgewinners...blue-team-rule/

On the subject of divergences from stated Blue Club/Neapolitan methods, I think that after the second hand on p12, Forquet and Siniscalco should have been escorted to separate rooms and asked to explain the auction. Failing some good explanation, that should have been their last board in a representative event.

[avonw]

Here is an example of Blue Team divergence from stated methods, at "just the right time".

http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org has an article, “The Neapolitan Club: Outline.”
We see two elements of the system:

...With 17+ the opening is 1C...

1S-1NT; 3D — Strong jump: four spades and five or more diamonds.


So how to account for Forquet’s actions on this hand?

1958 Bermuda Bowl Final, board 78. Neither vul.

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Forquet did not open a systemic 1C; he did not then rebid a systemic 3D.
And after Siniscalco’s 2S... Forquet passed.

Siniscalco had a queen and two jacks. +140

[nullve]

Maybe the auction really went

1C-1D
1H-1S
2D-2S
P

?