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Which story to tell

Poll: Which story to tell (15 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your call

  1. Pass (NF) (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  2. dbl ("t/o") (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  3. 3di (forcing, presumably?) (9 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  4. 3he (nf) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3sp (nf) (2 votes [13.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  6. 4cl (maybe promising support?) (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  7. other (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  8. I don't understand this poll (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   helene_t 

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Posted 2022-May-05, 06:43

1Sp=9-17, 5+ spades<br>2di=hearts


Note that we play switch so 2♦ shows hearts.

1♠ can be light, rule of 18 in principle, so this is not a minimum.
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Posted 2022-May-05, 08:09

Nice problem. They seem to have a fit of sorts so I expect we do too. So I double to hopefully find it. If partner has good enough clubs to pass that is likely our best spot - they way some people bid he might have five decent clubs opposite. I'd rather have a few more points for this action but I don't. Passing seems to risk it being passed out.
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Posted 2022-May-05, 08:10

For us, X (t/o) would show 4 diamonds, and 3♦ would show 5
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Posted 2022-May-05, 10:33

helene_t ' Note that we play switch so 2♦ shows hearts. 1♠ can be light, rule of 18 in principle, so this is not a minimum.
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I rank
1. 3♦ = NAT
2. 3♠ = NAT
3. Pass = Too weak in high cards.
3, 3♥ = Overbid
4. Double = Dangerous overbid. Opponents can probably make 10-11 tricks.

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Posted 2022-May-05, 14:35

It is a 6-5 hand with a good card ♥K. If you do not 3♦ here, then partner will probably let the auction die. Double here is a ambiguous/poor bid. Show partner your shape. Pass is just letting the opps. control the bidding.
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Posted 2022-May-05, 15:26

View Posthelene_t, on 2022-May-05, 06:43, said:

Note that we play switch so 2♦ shows hearts.

I suggest inserting this in the diagram as an explanation (it must be alertable almost everywhere).
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Posted 2022-May-05, 15:31

View Postnige1, on 2022-May-05, 10:33, said:

I rank
1. 3♦ = NAT
2. 3♠ = NAT
3. Pass = Too weak in high cards.
3, 3♥ = Overbid
4. Double = Dangerous overbid. Opponents can probably make 10-11 tricks.[/hv]

I might just invert 1 and 2 here.
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Posted 2022-May-05, 16:08

View Posthelene_t, on 2022-May-05, 06:43, said:

Note that we play switch so 2♦ shows hearts.

Range?
Minimum length if < INV?
Minimum length if INV?
Sets up a force to which contract?
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Posted 2022-May-05, 16:53

View Postnullve, on 2022-May-05, 16:08, said:

Range?
Minimum length if < INV?
Minimum length if INV?
Sets up a force to which contract?

If less than invitational it would make sense to have a six card suit but I don't think that is guaranteed. It doesn't set up any force.
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Posted 2022-May-06, 03:09

I was getting quite excited until I read that 2♦ showed hearts...Posted Image
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Posted 2022-May-06, 03:36

View PostDouglas43, on 2022-May-06, 03:09, said:

I was getting quite excited until I read that 2♦ showed hearts...Posted Image

You could still get excited.

My interpretation would be that the transfer advance shows either weak with long Hearts or some invitational hand with ♥
So X asks which?
Any response other than 3♥ would then line up a potential slam.
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Posted 2022-May-06, 03:47

View Postmw64ahw, on 2022-May-06, 03:36, said:

You could still get excited.

My interpretation would be that the transfer advance shows either weak with long Hearts or some invitational hand with ♥
So X asks which?
Any response other than 3♥ would then line up a potential slam.


yes because x, Axxxx, Kxx, KQxx gets you so excited, even 3N is no gimme, but yes anything other than 3N will get you excited. I don't think partner can pass the ToX with this which would likely work out best.
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