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Simple bid Make your opinion

Poll: Pls bid:) (51 member(s) have cast votes)

Pls bid:)

  1. pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. double (22 votes [43.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.14%

  3. 2 spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2 nt (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3 diamonds (28 votes [54.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 54.90%

  6. other (1 votes [1.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.96%

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#1 User is offline   omeroj 

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Posted 2005-June-21, 02:18

Scoring: IMP


Est open 2♥: weak with 6+cards and you that play in sud must bid.

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P.S. Sry for simple hand, but many players have more opinions about this hand:)
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Posted 2005-June-21, 02:23

;) Double seems automatic to me.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 02:33

This is the right poll, how may i cancel the other poll?
Is there an moderator that can cancel it?
tks...

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Posted 2005-June-21, 04:34

I bid 3H (Michaels). Pass whatever partner bids, unless it's 4C, which I correct to 4D.

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Posted 2005-June-21, 05:58

i bid 3♦
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Posted 2005-June-21, 07:53

I double, but assuming that we are playing Lebensohl over weak twos this could get tricky. If partner responds 3C (showing some values) I can bid 3D and we should be in fair shape. If partner responds 2NT, relaying to clubs, I am not so happy. Probably he plans to drop me in 3C, which may or may not be good, but if I bid 3D over his presumed weak relay he may well play me for more strength. This is a decent hand, but it needs some cards from partner if we are to go anywhere.

Without Lebensohl, I assume that most folks would treat X-3C-3D as being something like this simply because you too often lose spades if you cannot start with a double. Maybe it should be the same with X-2N(Leb)-3D but I am not sure that it is.

Anyway, I double and if pard bids a Lebensohl 2NT I bid 3D and pray for restraint. I won't be surprised to find many saying I must bid 3C over the relay to keep things under control.

I think I will discuss this with my partner.

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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:02

Pass is an option
So is 4♦ (5-5 ♦+♠)

But I'll just bid a 3♦ this time.

Double is ridicoulous IMO.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:04

Maybe it's a good idea to play equal level conversion, in which case dbl is fine. Otherwise the choice between dbl and 3♦ is close. I voted 3♦ because I can still bid 3♠ over partner's 3♥. If the majors had been reversed I would have doubled.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:13

3♦ !

After dbl and lebensohl I have no bid !
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:14

helene_t, on Jun 21 2005, 02:04 PM, said:

Maybe it's a good idea to play equal level conversion, in which case dbl is fine. Otherwise the choice between dbl and 3♦ is close. I voted 3♦ because I can still bid 3♠ over partner's 3♥. If the majors had been reversed I would have doubled.

I would dbl no matter if we play equal level converssion or not.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:46

Is nice to see 8 votes for double and 8 votes for 3♦
In italian bridge forum there is the 83% of votes with double and only 1 vote for 3♦
For me is simple and more costructive bid double, i could always play 2♠ in this hand, and my p can answer with lebhensol as 3♣ 7 more points.
according to my opinion 3♦ is a bid little constructive and little conventiente because it hides the quarter of spades and lever many spaces of bid.

Bye and tks for votes and posts:))

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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:48

Oops, I forgot to vote so now it's 9-8 for 3♦ ! LOL :D

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Posted 2005-June-21, 10:45

Very well:)the poll is a lot interesting...13 votes for 3♦ and 13 for double...
Who will win? :D :D :P

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Posted 2005-June-21, 10:46

omeroj, on Jun 21 2005, 03:18 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP


Est open 2♥: weak with 6+cards and you that play in sud must bid.

Omero

P.S. Sry for simple hand, but many players have more opinions about this hand:)

I bid double
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Posted 2005-June-21, 10:53

X because I have 2♣. If I had only 1♣, I would bid 3♦
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Posted 2005-June-21, 11:00

omeroj, on Jun 21 2005, 09:46 AM, said:

Is nice to see 8 votes for double and 8 votes for 3♦
In italian bridge forum there is the 83% of votes with double and only 1 vote for 3♦
For me is simple and more costructive bid double, i could always play 2♠ in this hand, and my p can answer with lebhensol as 3♣ 7 more points.
according to my opinion 3♦ is a bid little constructive and little conventiente because it hides the quarter of spades and lever many spaces of bid.

Bye and tks for votes and posts:))

Omero

Double

The Italians have been doubling on these hand types for years and winning. I would expect no other bid from them.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 11:06

DBL... guess I am an italian at heart...

If partner bids 2NT (lebehnshol), I am going to bid 3♦, and figure I am no worse off than those who bid 3♦ right away. I know some of you play this as GOSH (good one suited hand = too good for simple overcall), but I play this as equal level conversion. We were under a lot of pressure with 2♥ and I need to do soemthing. If I rebid 3♠, of course, over 2NT that would be a gosh. If I have a real gosh hand with diamonds, I must bid 3♥ now or jump to 4♦

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Posted 2005-June-21, 11:13

3D since ELC was not specified (and I do not play it anyways). If the opps bid 3H, which is likely, I can bid spades. If the opps pass and partner passes, I may have missed spades but I cannot handle club bids from partner if I X. We also miss 5D saves/games etc. My hand is very suitable for offense but surely I can't X and bid FIVE diamonds over a 4H bid. And what will I do when partner bids 5C over their 4H bid. Even ELC does not solve all problems. If I bid 3D and ANYBODY bids I will be MUCH better off than had I Xed. If it goes all pass, I may still be better off.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 11:21

3♦
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Posted 2005-June-21, 11:29

I voted for 3♦, but could vote for other since actually 'anyting but double' would be my answer, even 2♠ makes more sense.
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