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The card scramble hasn't been fixed for so long
#1
Posted 2021-December-15, 00:11
When you make an obvious lead against a suit contract simultaneously with partner's final pass, instead of making your obvious lead, you make a lead at random because BBO rearranges the cards to put trumps on tthe left when the bidding finishes.
Yesterday night this bug/issue decided who won the spannish national league after 140 deals of play during 6 months
this is an issue that has been running for yeards and it is so easy to fix. Here are some solutions:
-Forbid leading for 1 second after rearranging
-Don't rearrange for the initial lead untill it is not your turn
-Don't rearrange if the mouse is over the cards
Yesterday night this bug/issue decided who won the spannish national league after 140 deals of play during 6 months
this is an issue that has been running for yeards and it is so easy to fix. Here are some solutions:
-Forbid leading for 1 second after rearranging
-Don't rearrange for the initial lead untill it is not your turn
-Don't rearrange if the mouse is over the cards
#2
Posted 2021-December-15, 03:24
Fluffy, on 2021-December-15, 00:11, said:
-Forbid leading for 1 second after rearranging
Maybe 5+ seconds after the final pass? IMHO, ultra quick leads can impart UI although sometimes the bidding demands a certain lead.
FWIW, BBO is too busy increasing the card fees for their various games to get to this request anytime soon.
#3
Posted 2021-December-15, 10:18
Quick leads can impart UI, but 1NT-p-3NT-(10 seconds)p-p-p, for instance, one assumes that the opening leader is using the 15 odd seconds to work on what they're leading.
I have learned to keep the mouse *off* the hand when I'm going to be OL. Takes me a couple of seconds to get back to my hand at which point the reshuffle, if it's going to happen, has taken place.
But yes, at least there should either be a lock on leading before the switch happens, or an option to not reshuffle the hand (except for dummy) or something - likely various somethings. I'm sorry that it happened in a serious event.
I have learned to keep the mouse *off* the hand when I'm going to be OL. Takes me a couple of seconds to get back to my hand at which point the reshuffle, if it's going to happen, has taken place.
But yes, at least there should either be a lock on leading before the switch happens, or an option to not reshuffle the hand (except for dummy) or something - likely various somethings. I'm sorry that it happened in a serious event.
When I go to sea, don't fear for me, Fear For The Storm -- Birdie and the Swansong (tSCoSI)
#4
Posted 2021-December-15, 16:54
A lock on leading before the switch happens seems by far the most appropriate solution... but some solution certainly should be found.
#5
Posted 2021-December-16, 19:57
I look forward to the time when my skills at Bridge improve to the point where thinking is not required.
How about that? A mind game where thinking is unnecessary.
Report of the EBU Appeals Committee 2012 said:
South contends that West had nothing to think about when discarding clubs.
How about that? A mind game where thinking is unnecessary.
Fortuna Fortis Felix
#6
Posted 2021-December-17, 01:50
A very simple solution. Use diagram instead of cards, because it doesn't rearrange the cards. This way I have never had this problem.
#7
Posted 2021-December-17, 11:07
LionHeart1, on 2021-December-17, 01:50, said:
A very simple solution. Use diagram instead of cards, because it doesn't rearrange the cards. This way I have never had this problem.
Me too. Also barmar, which might explain why this was never fixed
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I much prefer hand diagram, although I find it difficult to adjust to cards when I go back to face to face or other online platforms.
#8
Posted 2021-December-20, 00:49
pescetom, on 2021-December-17, 11:07, said:
Me too. Also barmar, which might explain why this was never fixed ![:)](https://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Don't blame me. I don't program the client, and I'm not involved in prioritizing tasks.
But yeah, I don't experience many of the UI problems people complain about because I use diagram mode. It also doesn't have the problem of claims covering the trick count.
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