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Jump cuebid in response to Takeout Double Responses to Takeout double

#1 User is offline   paulsim 

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Posted 2021-August-01, 03:19

Hi there,

1♣ (X) p 3♣?

I guess a jump cuebid is always conventional in this secuence.

What's is it intended to? What's the meaning? Maybe a Western cuebid?
The meaning would be the same if the openning suit is different?

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Posted 2021-August-01, 03:23

Yes Western cuebid meakes sense: a hand with diamonds and too strong for a 2♦ response.

2♣ would then promise 4+ cards in at least one of the majors
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Posted 2021-August-01, 03:37

Traditionally it asks for a club stopper for 3NT. A lot of people would bid 2♣ on a powerhouse even without a 4cM, and then bid 3♦ on the next round with a strong diamond hand.
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Posted 2021-August-01, 04:19

Asking partner to bid 3nt with a stopper (Western Cue) or a hand with interest in slam.
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Posted 2021-August-04, 16:34

View Postpaulsim, on 2021-August-01, 03:19, said:

Hi there,

1♣ (X) p 3♣?

I guess a jump cuebid is always conventional in this secuence.

What's is it intended to? What's the meaning? Maybe a Western cuebid?
The meaning would be the same if the openning suit is different?

Thanks all
Kind Regards,

PaulS


As Marshall Miles said in a long-ago article by Eddie Kantar: "It's OK to have undefined auctions. For example, we have never assigned a meaning to 1♦ - 1NT ; 7♠ ."

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Posted 2021-August-04, 17:38

A standard understanding is the jump cue bid is a stopper ask.
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Posted 2021-August-04, 20:34

View PostWinstonm, on 2021-August-04, 17:38, said:

A standard understanding is the jump cue bid is a stopper ask.

The only other suggestion I can remember seeing is a hand with both majors, typically 5-5, of some strength or other. This is typically either meant to act as a preempt with a weak(ish) hand or to take some pressure off of the cue bid sequences with a constructive hand.
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Posted 2021-August-05, 07:53

View PostGilithin, on 2021-August-04, 20:34, said:

The only other suggestion I can remember seeing is a hand with both majors, typically 5-5, of some strength or other. This is typically either meant to act as a preempt with a weak(ish) hand or to take some pressure off of the cue bid sequences with a constructive hand.

Thank you. I am always a tad uncomfortable making absolute statements because my knowledge is as old as I am.
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Posted 2021-August-05, 09:21

I use 3♣ as a 4441 over a Power X and any 1 level suit opening, but guess this could be the same bid over a takeout X. My standard understanding is as a stopper ask for 3NT.
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Posted 2021-August-05, 17:15

I don’t think the jump cue as asking for a stopper in response to a double is the best use though - it makes a lot more sense as a direct seat bid.
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Posted 2021-August-06, 20:49

View PostWinstonm, on 2021-August-05, 17:15, said:

I don’t think the jump cue as asking for a stopper in response to a double is the best use though - it makes a lot more sense as a direct seat bid.

Switch to the 5-5 majors meaning then! My personal suggestion would be to make it invitational as that is probably the most awkward range in cue bid auctions.
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