[thepossum]

smerriman, on 2020-September-05, 03:18, said:

If you're playing with a basic robot, it will make exactly the same bid in the same situation.

If you're playing with an advanced robot, it will start with the basic robot's bid, then simulate a number of hands and see whether other bids would lead to a better final result. In a tournament situation, different tables will match the random seeds and ensure the robot runs the same simulations and comes up with the same bid. Anywhere else, like the situation your described, the simulated hands will differ, and therefore the outcome can differ every time the hand is plaeyd.

Just a thought. In a tournament situation in order to save time rather than running the exact same simulation with the same seed each time, just run it once and save the result to be used elsewhere

I was going to start another topic somewhere but this seems a relevant thread. I'm weighing up the pros and cons, investment costs versus robot quality benefits between a monthly investment in Prime and an occasional weekly purchase of a basic Bot. I know I asked earlier and was told there wasnt really that much difference most of the time, except for unning mroe simulations. I have been meaning to put some of my more interesting basic bot auctions through the advanced bot bidding machine as a test

Some logic that would be good in an advanced bot would be different defensive approaches. The bidding doesnt go awry too often

[smerriman]

thepossum, on 2020-September-06, 21:11, said:

Just a thought. In a tournament situation in order to save time rather than running the exact same simulation with the same seed each time, just run it once and save the result to be used elsewhere

To be honest, that would be far more complex. The point of having the same seed is that if everything is equal going in, then everything is equal going out. If you try to change the behaviour from the first time it runs to later times, not only do you have to save a lot more information, but it would also mess everything up from that point forward, since the random number generator will be in a different state for later simulations that you haven't saved.