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4NT after opening 2NT then Jacoby Transfers

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Posted 2020-April-25, 13:47

I got a reply about why to flip-flop Texas as a slam invite with 2NT. In essence, the top level players in Italy play it that way and if I don't agree then I should phone Lauria :)

Thinking about it, I suspect it originated when superaccepts for 3-level transfers over 2NT were unheard of or strictly length related. In that case a responder with a single suit would have no way to invite to slam without forcing beyond game level unless Texas was invitational.
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Posted 2020-April-25, 13:48

Non-forcing RKC (I said it!)
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Posted 2020-April-30, 09:31

 ibm386, on 2020-April-25, 06:12, said:

3♦-3♥ and 4♣ Gerber - 0-4,1,2,3 aces
simple the best.

I too wonder why 4 Clubs (Gerber) was never considered by anyone. What's the problem with that bid?
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Posted 2020-April-30, 12:10

 arepo24, on 2020-April-30, 09:31, said:

I too wonder why 4 Clubs (Gerber) was never considered by anyone. What's the problem with that bid?

#1 4C is only Gerber, if responder bids it immediately after a 1NT / 2NT opening bid.
And there are a other usages for a 4C response to NT opening bids than Gerber.
#2 If responder is strong enough to set a major suit and after setting trumps, the common
approach is going via Texas Transfers.
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Posted 2020-May-02, 07:37

 P_Marlowe, on 2020-April-30, 12:10, said:

#1 4C is only Gerber, if responder bids it immediately after a 1NT / 2NT opening bid.
And there are a other usages for a 4C response to NT opening bids than Gerber.
#2 If responder is strong enough to set a major suit and after setting trumps, the common
approach is going via Texas Transfers.


After 2NT opening and 3♦ transfer you can bid 4 ♠ as BW because the All other bids are natural.
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Posted 2020-May-02, 07:40

 nofr, on 2020-May-02, 07:37, said:

After 2NT opening and 3♦ transfer you can bid 4 ♠ as BW because the All other bids are natural.


4♠ by the responder...!
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Posted 2020-May-18, 09:02

I would always break with 4-card support but not always with 3. If you transfer and partner bids a simple 3H, quantitative 4NT does not rule out 6H. Partner can still bid 6H with maximum, 3 card support and a doubleton outside.
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Posted 2020-May-18, 10:56

 nullve, on 2020-April-25, 13:48, said:

Non-forcing RKC (I said it!)


LOL it is perfectly valid. If you are accepting, show aces along the way and now you can stop in 5NT if necessary.
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