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Posted 2019-November-15, 23:40

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We were practicing strong hands vs weak hands. I thought this was cool because the weak hand became captain. I realize we would have had interference. I'm sure others would get to 7C.

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1H-relay
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2C-extras
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Posted 2019-November-16, 06:07

This one is pretty simple by normal methods, effectively as soon as the S hand shows 4+ clubs you're likely to get there, it will never be terrible barring a complete freak and can easily be more or less laydown.
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Posted 2019-November-16, 06:13

View Poststraube, on 2019-November-15, 23:40, said:

I thought this was cool because the weak hand became captain.

nullve-nullve:

1 = "10+, NAT(ish) unBAL" OR "20-22 BAL"
1 = "0+, 4+ H"
3 = "GF (rule of 31 or better), usually 5+D4+C but never 2-H5D5C"
3 = relay
4 = 3064 (hence 21+ hcp)
4 = key card ask with clubs agreed
4 = even number of key cards
4N = trump Q ask
5N = trump Q + K + K + Q, no Q
7 = contract
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Posted 2019-November-16, 08:42

View Postnullve, on 2019-November-16, 06:13, said:

nullve-nullve:

1 = "10+, NAT(ish) unBAL" OR "20-22 BAL"
1 = "0+, 4+ H"
3 = "GF (rule of 31 or better), usually 5+D4+C but never 2-H5D5C"
3 = relay
4 = 3064 (hence 21+ hcp)
4 = key card ask with clubs agreed
4 = even number of key cards
4N = trump Q ask
5N = trump Q + K + K + Q, no Q
7 = contract


That's very nice. You probably have used weak hand captaincy before we have. So, too, I suspect Adam and Sieong. What are your other forcing openings?
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Posted 2019-November-16, 08:47

View PostCyberyeti, on 2019-November-16, 06:07, said:

This one is pretty simple by normal methods, effectively as soon as the S hand shows 4+ clubs you're likely to get there, it will never be terrible barring a complete freak and can easily be more or less laydown.


You really missed the point.
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Posted 2019-November-16, 10:04

Cool, as the weak hand can determine the optimum contract best.

I tried bidding this with the strong hand captain and bidding became a guessing game since south is so weak. Back to the drawing board. :(

1 (15+) - 1 (4+ & 0-7 hcp) - 2 (Beta) - 2 (0-1 control) - 3 (Natural & forcing 1 round) - 4 - 6 (Would 4 be a CAB looking for 3rd round control?) - - -
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Posted 2019-November-16, 10:27

View PostPrecisionL, on 2019-November-16, 10:04, said:

Cool, as the weak hand can determine the optimum contract best.


Thanks


View PostPrecisionL, on 2019-November-16, 10:04, said:

I tried bidding this with the strong hand captain and bidding became a guessing game since south is so weak. Back to the drawing board. :(

1 (15+) - 1 (4+ & 0-7 hcp) - 2 (Beta) - 2 (0-1 control) - 3 (Natural & forcing 1 round) - 4 - 6 (Would 4 be a CAB looking for 3rd round control?) - - -


If this is your auction to 4C, you might get there. I would infer a 5/5 or 4/6 hand for that bid and I think opener can count tricks at that point. The fifth club is very important and it's safer if it's 5 to the J.
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Posted 2019-November-16, 14:30

View Poststraube, on 2019-November-16, 08:47, said:

You really missed the point.


We transfer captaincy so regularly in our auctions that it's not a big thing for us, although wouldn't on this one as we don't have the extra accuracy of the relays.
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Posted 2019-November-17, 06:43

View Poststraube, on 2019-November-16, 08:42, said:

What are your other forcing openings?

My other forcing and not-so-forcing openings:

1 = "10+, NAT(ish) unBAL" OR "11-13/17-19/26+ BAL". Forcing.
2 = "weak w/ either 6(+)M3-OM or 5M3-OM4+m" OR "unBAL GF w/ primarily hearts". Not strictly forcing.
2 = "weak canapé preempt in spades" OR "unBAL GF w/ primarily spades". Not strictly forcing.

A few analogous auctions using these other openings:

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Posted 2019-November-17, 11:09

Nice. Thanks for sharing.
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