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Posted 2005-May-16, 10:31

Scoring: IMP

BPO-002D
S----------W---------- N----------E
1♦…………..Pass…………1♠…….…..Pass
? your bid

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Posted 2005-May-16, 10:35

BPO-002D

4♦

SOLID 6-7 card Diamond suit with 4 card Spade support:
Textbook example...
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Posted 2005-May-16, 10:40

4♣ splinter...
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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:06

I am also a 4♣ splinter bidder...
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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:13

4NT RKCB. Perfect hand to use it. Anything else may work but it just complicates what's simple :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:13

4♣ splinter too
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  Posted 2005-May-16, 11:15

I like 4♣, except that I'm not sure what I expect partner to bid now. There won't be a diamond cue, and unless the opponents have a 10 card fit no ♥ cue, either.

I have a bit of sympathy for blackwood, but everything goes pear-shaped if you're missing 3 keycards.
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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:17

I can't show my hand to the partner. It's me - who has to make a dicission about final contract. And all what I need for it is number of partners key cards.
Bid is 4NT.
If partner has 3 - will play 7♠, 2 - 6♠, just 1 - 5♠.
zero - sorry partner. (But hidden singleton clubs will give me some possability escape in 5♠ even in this unlucky case)
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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:22

Blofeld, on May 16 2005, 06:15 PM, said:

I like 4♣, except that I'm not sure what I expect partner to bid now. There won't be a diamond cue, and unless the opponents have a 10 card fit no ♥ cue, either.

I chose 4♣ in the hope that partner would do 4♥ as some last train noise in case he is looking at two key cards. He might also jump to 5♠ with, say ♠AKxxx and out. I don't like RKCB since opposite one keycard and no ♠J, I will have to guess the trump suit to make 5♠.

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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:29

4C



Agree 4d is textbook. In any case my splinter should get msg across. 18-20 pts..short clubs...long D and spades...

4nt? Goodness gracious.... my spade spots make me very nervous. We may be off 3 trump tricks and the ace of clubs.
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Posted 2005-May-16, 11:46

4♦ old fashioned solid suit with 4 card support for pard
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Posted 2005-May-16, 12:32

i *think* i said 4♣
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Posted 2005-May-16, 14:08

olegru, on May 16 2005, 05:17 PM, said:

I can't show my hand to the partner. It's me - who has to make a dicission about final contract. And all what I need for it is number of partners key cards.
Bid is 4NT.

Ahhh.. another member of that breed of strong men, who have the courage to take a stand and make a decision that will lead our side to VICTORY.

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Posted 2005-May-16, 14:10

whereagles, on May 16 2005, 11:08 PM, said:

olegru, on May 16 2005, 05:17 PM, said:

I can't show my hand to the partner. It's me - who has to make a dicission about final contract. And all what I need for it is number of partners key cards.
Bid is 4NT.

Ahhh.. another member of that breed of strong men, who have the courage to take a stand and make a decision that will lead our side to VICTORY.

:(

Hmmm

My reading is another player who doesn't understand what a 4♦ rebid shows...
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Posted 2005-May-16, 14:15

LOL

Speak for yourself, hrothgar. I've been playing that 4D rebid for five years now.

If someone doesn't understand what 4D is, that one is YOU. Why? Because this is not the sort of hand where you relinquish control. Rather, it is the sort of hand where you TAKE control.
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Posted 2005-May-16, 14:59

ok you are all wrong I chose 4 spades :(
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Posted 2005-May-16, 15:01

please ignore my stupid post this is one I bid 4 club splinter on, I was looking at wrong board on my print out, you are all correct :(
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Posted 2005-May-16, 18:07

2 Hearts

I expect to get zero points for this bid, but I selected 2 hearts. Again, I want to hear partner's rebid.
A 4C or a 4D rebid gets you absolutely nowhere. Partner is most likely to rebid 4S, so you are back to where you started. If, by chance partner can show 5 spades via rebidding them or raising hearts, then at least I know that I'm not sitting opposite 4 lousy spades in partner's hand. I'm looking for some way to create a forcing situation below the 4 level.
This hand could make 7 or go down in 4.
The 5 level is not guaranteed safe.
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Posted 2005-May-16, 18:08

whereagles, on May 16 2005, 11:15 PM, said:

LOL

Speak for yourself, hrothgar. I've been playing that 4D rebid for five years now.

If someone doesn't understand what 4D is, that one is YOU. Why? Because this is not the sort of hand where you relinquish control. Rather, it is the sort of hand where you TAKE control.

Let's be clear about priorities on this hand

Any Tom, Dick, or Harry will be able to safely investigate slam on this hand and can chose any one of a variety of bids to do so.

Most pair's should be able to have a rational auction and make a sensible decision regarding whether the than should be played in 6 or 7...

The key to this hand is determining whether the hand is to be played in Spades or NT.

If you "seize" captaincy, forgoing the opportunity to show 6 solid Diamonds you give up on any chance at an intelligent exploration of 7NT as a final contract...
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Posted 2005-May-16, 18:14

Double !, on May 16 2005, 07:07 PM, said:

2 Hearts

I expect to get zero points for this bid, but I selected 2 hearts. Again, I want to hear partner's rebid.
A 4C or a 4D rebid gets you absolutely nowhere.  Partner is most likely to rebid 4S, so you are back to where you started.  If, by chance partner can show 5 spades via rebidding them or raising hearts, then at least I know that I'm not sitting opposite 4 lousy spades in partner's hand.  I'm looking for some way to create a forcing situation below the level.
This hand could make 7 or go down in 4. 
The 5 level is not guaranteed safe.


i agree.
i didnt think this day would come, but on this one:
- i will not inform my partner about my 4 card support
- or my 6 card solid suit
but rather bid the suit i have 2 cards in.
it is the lowest forcing bid, and it should leave you in total control for the rest of the bidding
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