[Dinarius]

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responder’s hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

[Cyberyeti]

1♦-1♠ is how we'd start, we have the advantage of playing weak NT so we can use a GF unbal 2N rebid with a semi forced 3♣ bid over it so we'd see:

1♦-1♠
2N-3♣
3♥-3N (3♠ would say no more than "I have a 5th spade" so N knows not to bid 4♠.

S will expect about a 20 count with 5♦ and 4♥

[Dinarius]

Interesting.

I also opened 1♦️. Partner passed.

I rebid 2❤️ (Forcing for one round) over a 1♠️ response.

Playing strong NT, in partner’s defence, the last thing he wants to hear is a 1NT rebid by opener, with an iffy 12 count. Especially at MPs.

6♦️ is cold, but not easy to get there, I think. A bad slam at MPs anyway, I think.

D.

[pescetom]

Dinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:58, said:

Interesting.

I also opened 1♦️. Partner passed.

I rebid 2❤️ (Forcing for one round) over a 1♠️ response.

Playing strong NT, in partner’s defence, the last thing he wants to hear is a 1NT rebid by opener, with an iffy 12 count. Especially at MPs.

6♦️ is cold, but not easy to get there, I think. A bad slam at MPs anyway, I think.

I would have opened 1♦ and the beer bill would be in question if he passed with that hand
Over 1♠ I rebid 2♥ and then over 3♣ I rebid 3♦.
Partner would probably fight it out in 3NT although I'm hoping for 4♦ inviting control-bid.

[johnu]

Dinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:58, said:

6♦️ is cold, but not easy to get there, I think. A bad slam at MPs anyway, I think.

6♦ should be difficult to get to as it is much worse than 50%.

[ahydra]

IMHO you should respond on a decent 5 pts (but not 4). Hands where opener is super-max (19-21) show why.

1D-1S
2H-2NT (leb)
3S (super-max with 3451 or 3460)-3NT (slam looks unlikely even opposite perfect cards)

The slam is pretty bad, yes. You're 50% for the heart finesse and just over 70% to pick up the trumps, so less than 40% overall - not to mention you need to ruff at least one heart. Actually MPs or IMPs barely matters as at both the odds you need to break even are 50%.

ahydra

[HardVector]

Dinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:31, said:

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responder’s hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

I agree with opening 1d. 1s response is close, but I strive to bid majors instead of passing a minor, also I like the tens. Switch the spades and diamonds, and I'd probably pass unless 1d-2d is natural 6-9.

[msjennifer]

Dinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:31, said:

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responder's hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

Sir,I shall open 1D.Given the responders hand I shall reply 1S to the opening bid of 1D.

[PhilG007]

Dinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:31, said:

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responder's hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

As dealer with the first hand I would open a very conservative 1♦ Yes you have a thrilling beautiful hand but you should also
remember you have a partner sitting opposite you. A partner who could easily hold diddly squat in which case you STILL have 21 points,
Its not yet time to get excited. A simple 1 level 'feeler' bid is whats called for here to see if there is life opposite.
On the responder hand I am too weak to reply to a 1♦ opening. However if partner opens 1♠ then I
can count an extra point for the doubleton heart and can raise to 2♠

[miamijd]

I think it's close between 1D and 2NT. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. For those who think 2NT is insane:

* You'll reach good games if partner has a decent 4 or a bad 5.
* You'll reach good games if partner can transfer to spades with a bust
* You'll reach good games if partner can Stayman with a weak hand
* You'll reach better partials if partner has major suit strength and a
weak hand

If partner opened 1D, I would bid 1S with the hand you show, but it's close. Make the Tc a small club and I'd pass

Cheers,
Mike

[rmnka447]

Normally, over partner's 1 of a minor opener, you try to respond in major if you can and may push the minimum response a little. This is especially true if you hold only 3 or less cards in opener's suit.

I'd open the hand 1 ♦. As responder, I'd bid 1 ♠.

You bid 1 ♠ for several reasons.

First, if opener promises 3+ ♦, you normally don't want to end up playing in ♦ with a 3-3 ♦ fit nor with a stiff or void in the opening suit.

Also, opener often has a 4+ card major when opening a minor, so you'd like to find the major fit if one exists. If the bidding goes

1 ♦ - 1 ♠
2 ♠ - P

you're probably in a better spot then 1 ♦ passed out.

Sometimes partner has a powerhouse hand and only has to hear any response to push forward. It's even more so after a minor opening because some hands can be awkward to bid after a strong 2 ♣ opener followed by a 3 of a minor rebid. These are more apt to be in 1 of a minor figuring they won't get passed out.

Partner's rebid may put you in a decent contract. If partner rebids 2 ♦, you've gotten to an 8+ card fit, you pass. If partner rebids 1 NT, you pass. Of course, the hand above could occur and you'll play 2 ♠. You plan on making minimum responses throughout and plan to pass at the first opportunity to do so unless partner makes a forcing bid.

[cleveritis]

1D - 1S - 2H (f)- 2N (leb) - 3S (I know you want to sign off Im 3451 gf versus a sign off) - Probably 3N (without club t - 4S)

[dokoko]

As our 1♦ opening is always unbalanced, we would respond 1♠ as we can easily go back to diamonds if necessary.