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#1 User is offline   wbartley 

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Posted 2018-August-03, 11:34

I'm seeing some bizarre bidding and playing in the new MP and IMP games. I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't some sort of random component being thrown in. Here's a hand from an IMP game where GIB seems to go completely bonkers.



Human is South here. GIB is doing all the bidding. 2NT was correctly described as 10-12, invitational, although with those great club and diamond cards I would lean towards bidding game. GIB East, with a 19 count, passes the invitation!
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Posted 2018-August-04, 00:57

Agreed. Robots seem to be getting stupid. Today i had one go down in a cold 4S contract by refusing a ruff & sluff. Another went down in cold 3H by taking an unnecessary finesse after setting up a suit that would have given robot enough tricks . And yesterday I saw this auction...

P P 1C P
1S P P P

WTH? I had 4S & 9 points. Robot had 1 spade, 14 points and a clear 1NT rebid. I was so po'd I just logged off.
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Posted 2018-August-04, 07:10

I never thought I would say this, but that looks like a bad 19 count B-)
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Posted 2018-August-04, 14:36

 johnu, on 2018-August-04, 07:10, said:

I never thought I would say this, but that looks like a bad 19 count B-)


I agree, but I think it's still worth 3 (or 3NT if that is how they bid).
That 2 bid urges caution by West.
I can't see why 2NT should be strong and invitational, what should West bid if he has modest 5-card spades and hearts?
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Posted 2018-August-04, 21:16

 pescetom, on 2018-August-04, 14:36, said:

I can't see why 2NT should be strong and invitational, what should West bid if he has modest 5-card spades and hearts?


Strong and invitational as descriptions for a responding hand are an unusual grouping of adjectives.

 pescetom, on 2018-August-04, 14:36, said:

what should West bid if he has modest 5-card spades and hearts?


Less than an invitational hand? Take a preference to a minor, or rebid spades if you think spades will be better than a minor.
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Posted 2018-August-06, 09:28

 johnu, on 2018-August-04, 21:16, said:

Strong and invitational as descriptions for a responding hand are an unusual grouping of adjectives.



Less than an invitational hand? Take a preference to a minor, or rebid spades if you think spades will be better than a minor.


It appears such excessive egregiousness occurs in IMP/MP tournament formats where I am assuming many many tables are being served simultaneously.
I think GUBBO is out of resources - e.g. searches the bidding table and randomly picks from the choices.
In moneybridge less egregious especially at Highest Skill/Slowest Speed.
But nobody agrees it is a resource problem.
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