Help
Opps play Acol (4cM, weak NT). What do you lead?
ahydra
Page 1 of 1
Lead vs 3NT
#1
- AQT92 AQ --- QJ6532
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,840
- Joined: 2009-September-09
- Gender:Male
- Location:Wellington, NZ
Posted 2018-May-09, 05:30
Matchpoints, nobody vul
Opps play Acol (4cM, weak NT). What do you lead?
ahydra
Opps play Acol (4cM, weak NT). What do you lead?
ahydra
#2
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 14,403
- Joined: 2009-July-13
- Location:England
Posted 2018-May-09, 05:45
I lead a prosaic small diamond too much danger partner has Jxx(x) and a club stop, 4432 is a not unlikely shape for S, but a spade can easily be right.
#3
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 10,092
- Joined: 2008-December-11
- Gender:Male
- Location:North Texas, USA
- Interests:Mountain Biking
Posted 2018-May-09, 06:23
Even if a low diamond is wrong, you will have a lot of company.
Hi y'all!
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#4
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 10,346
- Joined: 2005-March-18
- Gender:Male
Posted 2018-May-09, 07:00
Hi,
it is either diamonds or spades, ..., but given that partner did not
overcall 1S, I will go with a diamond, any diamond honor will be enough
to help us establish the suit, ..., we have a 5 carder with Ace and Ten.
Maybe they are even old school, and they would never byp pass diamonds
when being 44 in the reds.
With kind regards
Marlowe
it is either diamonds or spades, ..., but given that partner did not
overcall 1S, I will go with a diamond, any diamond honor will be enough
to help us establish the suit, ..., we have a 5 carder with Ace and Ten.
Maybe they are even old school, and they would never byp pass diamonds
when being 44 in the reds.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#5
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,951
- Joined: 2008-April-30
- Gender:Male
- Location:Sussex, England
Posted 2018-May-09, 10:17
♦
"Pass is your friend" - my brother in law - who likes to bid a lot.
#6
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 17,289
- Joined: 2005-January-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
- Interests:Art, music
Posted 2018-May-09, 12:02
Although I don't know Acol, I assume the 2C bid is 6 cards in length, which makes me concerned declarer has 8 cashers and a diamond lead hands out a 9th trick that is undeserved. Against that is the case where clubs are stopped and a diamond is necessary to establish 4 more tricks.
I am with the majority - a diamond as anything else is too much a guess and too abnormal.
I am with the majority - a diamond as anything else is too much a guess and too abnormal.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
#7
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 14,403
- Joined: 2009-July-13
- Location:England
Posted 2018-May-09, 12:28
Winstonm, on 2018-May-09, 12:02, said:
Although I don't know Acol, I assume the 2C bid is 6 cards in length, which makes me concerned declarer has 8 cashers and a diamond lead hands out a 9th trick that is undeserved. Against that is the case where clubs are stopped and a diamond is necessary to establish 4 more tricks.
I am with the majority - a diamond as anything else is too much a guess and too abnormal.
I am with the majority - a diamond as anything else is too much a guess and too abnormal.
6 clubs or 5♣/4♦, many Acol players don't open 1♦ when 4-5
#8
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,366
- Joined: 2012-March-18
- Gender:Male
- Location:Illinois
- Interests:Bridge, Golf, Soccer
Posted 2018-May-09, 15:34
Low ♦ (4th or 5th as per your lead agreements)
It probably wouldn't be unusual for declarer to be 4-4 in the majors on this auction.
It probably wouldn't be unusual for declarer to be 4-4 in the majors on this auction.
#9
- AQT92 AQ --- QJ6532
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,840
- Joined: 2009-September-09
- Gender:Male
- Location:Wellington, NZ
Posted 2018-May-12, 20:35
Thanks all. So, one vote for a spade, and 14 for a diamond. I led a spade:
My logic was:
- leading from broken honours is risky
- partner is quite likely to have 4 spades
- partner has the entries, not me.
The latter certainly turned out to be true but partner lacked imagination and persisted with spades both times she got in, so declarer was able to set up hearts. But on reflection, I thought I should lead a diamond - it's less risky to lead from broken honours in a 5-card suit, and declarer may still have 4 spades since dummy denied 4 spades.
ahydra
My logic was:
- leading from broken honours is risky
- partner is quite likely to have 4 spades
- partner has the entries, not me.
The latter certainly turned out to be true but partner lacked imagination and persisted with spades both times she got in, so declarer was able to set up hearts. But on reflection, I thought I should lead a diamond - it's less risky to lead from broken honours in a 5-card suit, and declarer may still have 4 spades since dummy denied 4 spades.
ahydra
Page 1 of 1