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Agressive bidding sometimes pays?

#21 User is offline   RD350LC 

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Posted 2018-May-05, 08:38

View Posthrothgar, on 2018-May-04, 17:32, said:

Is there a point to posting boards that score well because you're playing against weak opposition?

3!H doubles should be down 3 for -500.
Still a good board for you, but move the deuce of clubs to diamonds, and your top is now a clear bottom...

I agree with what he is saying. I would bid with the south hand-but only after both opponents have limited their hands. In this case, south was playing with fire, and deserved to get burnt.
He was very lucky on this hand.
So, I would not have bid at the time south did.
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Posted 2018-May-05, 09:35

View PostFelicityR, on 2018-May-04, 21:33, said:

2 by North is not aggressive, just plain ludicrous.

2H isn't ludicrous it's partner's double that is ludicrous.
South should have an unbalanced hand not 5332 even if 5H.
South's 2H is palatable opposite a hand with ruffs.


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Posted 2018-May-05, 11:06

View PostFelicityR, on 2018-May-04, 21:33, said:

2 by North is not aggressive, just plain ludicrous.


I think you failed to see S's takeout X. Opposite a PD who'd have more for a passed hand T/O X 2 is automatic, IMHO.
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Posted 2018-May-05, 14:05

13 out 14 bid a 22 point 3N contract?
I don’t believe it!
Deserves to lose 4 spade tricks and the A!
-300 does not look so clever against -150
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Posted 2018-May-05, 14:33

View Postnekthen, on 2018-May-05, 14:05, said:

13 out 14 bid a 22 point 3N contract?
I don’t believe it!
Deserves to lose 4 spade tricks and the A!
-300 does not look so clever against -150


14+10=24 HCP although even then I'd expect in a typical club game that more would miss 3NT.
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Posted 2018-May-08, 03:15

View Postoldem, on 2018-May-05, 01:56, said:

The aggressiveness was meant to belong to South for his "double". He knew that East's response of 1NT showed limited strength; he expected his side could have had up to 17~18 HCPs; and that his holding of KJ3 behind the bidder could be valuable. He could have bidden 2 himself but this was too misleading. Therefore, he just "doubled" and waited for the best.

Unless you got the auction wrong: The double was before opener limited his hand,
and this means, the X is just garbage, unless you tell us, that South was able to look
in the future.
If the auction comes to South a 3rd time, he may enter, but not at his 2nd bid, he got
away with it, fine, this happens, sometimes you have play bad bridge to have a chance to
catch up, but rationlizing / defending bad calls, ...
South was lucky, that East was not able to show his inv. (-) strength, which makes it
hard for West to hit 3H, maybe it was also IMP scoring, ...
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Posted 2018-May-08, 07:04

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Posted 2018-May-08, 13:24

The "aggressive" bid happened to work this time. West should recognize that the 3 raise has to be made on length and values.

The choice becomes 3 NT or making an ornery MP double. With the fit, I think a "risky" 3 NT bid stands out at MPs. Based on the bidding, it seems like RHO who doubled is more likely to have A and gives you a probable double stopper.

Even if I took a big goose egg here from these players, I'd love playing against them in the future. If they continue to be aggressive like this, I know I'll get more than my share of +1100s and +800s to offset any bad result this time.
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Posted 2018-May-08, 15:21

The double is silly. Bid 2, or open 2, if you must.

3 should be doubled and may go for 800 if you have to guess the spades yourself.

Opps may well have stopped in 3 if you didn't bid 3 so you traded -130 for -150 even without the double.
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Posted 2018-May-09, 04:10

View Posthelene_t, on 2018-May-08, 15:21, said:

The double is silly. Bid 2, or open 2, if you must.

No, no - you have missed the point, helene. South knew that it would be misleading to overcall 2!

Next time, perhaps it will occur to him that it might also be misleading to double....
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