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Posted 2017-August-02, 04:58
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2017-August-02, 06:52
Gib counts points for voids. Even in NT, even in partners suit. It has no clue.
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Posted 2017-August-02, 07:59
LOL perhaps needs to be replaced by GOL now - Groan Out Loud. GIB's weird bids are just far too commonplace overall. As Steve says 'It has no clue'. And I agree.
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Posted 2017-August-02, 11:37
nige1, on 2017-August-02, 10:15, said:
e.g. Swap defenders' ♠ honours 
Good try Nige1 but then East hasn't got an opening bid. Lol
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Posted 2017-August-02, 11:40
nige1, on 2017-August-02, 10:15, said:
e.g. Swap defenders' ♠ honours [/hv]
[/hv]Sure, on the original hand, move around a few cards and 3NT could be good. In general, you need to find a spade stop(s), maybe some spade length, heart help, and a good club fit for 3NT to be a good contract. MP or IMPs would make a difference. I don't think 3NT rates to be a good contract opposite an average 1NT overcall even though I've been in a lot worse contract.
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Posted 2017-August-02, 16:18
Guys...this was not about the result and not about my score. It was all about the alert and what it actually had. I think I got a good score for going down -1 so....I have no idea why you keep writing how 3 NT would end if it had this or had that...
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2017-August-02, 17:24
MrAce, on 2017-August-02, 16:18, said:
Guys...this was not about the result and not about my score. It was all about the alert and what it actually had. I think I got a good score for going down -1 so....I have no idea why you keep writing how 3 NT would end if it had this or had that...
GIB's book bids and their descriptions can't possibly be comprehensive to cover every range and distribution at all times (neither can a human's).
It picks what it thinks is the best 'lie' that will lead to the optimal contract.
Not saying its bid here was right; but in this case it has to be about the long term expectation of the result and the score, not whether the description matches.
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Posted 2017-August-02, 18:46
nige1, on 2017-August-02, 10:15, said:
Gib bids and plays as well as the average BBOer
Gib's main failing is post-mortem ATB
e.g. Swap defenders' ♠ honours
Your hand is too strong for 1NT over 1D. More like double then 1NT.
Getting into 3NT one trick short DD is almost a sure thing against GIBs so it is a good contract in the context- it has almost got it TP. The correct way to play it is after getting in with spade, run your clubs then try diamonds or hearts depending on GIB's awful discards.
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Posted 2017-August-02, 21:05
cloa513, on 2017-August-02, 18:46, said:
Your hand is too strong for 1NT over 1D. More like double then 1NT.
Getting into 3NT one trick short DD is almost a sure thing against GIBs so it is a good contract in the context- it has almost got it TP. The correct way to play it is after getting in with spade, run your clubs then try diamonds or hearts depending on GIB's awful discards.
Getting into 3NT one trick short DD is almost a sure thing against GIBs so it is a good contract in the context- it has almost got it TP. The correct way to play it is after getting in with spade, run your clubs then try diamonds or hearts depending on GIB's awful discards.
LOL 15 goes to this reply!
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2017-August-03, 01:32
MrAce, on 2017-August-02, 16:18, said:
Guys...this was not about the result and not about my score. It was all about the alert and what it actually had. I think I got a good score for going down -1 so....I have no idea why you keep writing how 3 NT would end if it had this or had that...
It's very sad, but these hands where GIB apparently awards itself shortness points when there is no fit, or NT is the target contract, are posted so frequently that they barely register for those who play a lot. Thus the focus goes to just how bad the bid actually was.
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Gib bids and plays as well as the average BBOer
Gib's main failing is post-mortem ATB
e.g. Swap defenders' ♠ honours