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Suit Rebids, Raises, and 2NT What is the best approach in 2/1?

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Posted 2017-August-06, 03:16

 Winstonm, on 2017-July-31, 20:18, said:

The problem as I see it is that no one has been able to show their strength - there is no room for a mild slam try unless a minor suit bid at this point is agreed as a cue bid in support, which is not that bad of agreement, in my estimation. You?

Perhaps you are missing the fact that opener's bids of 1♠ 2♠ 3♠ is limited to 14 hcp. No problem : 15+ would be 1♠ 3♠.
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Posted 2017-August-06, 07:16

 fromageGB, on 2017-August-06, 03:16, said:

Perhaps you are missing the fact that opener's bids of 1♠ 2♠ 3♠ is limited to 14 hcp. No problem : 15+ would be 1♠ 3♠.


you really jump to 3s on JTxxxx/Axx/AKx/A?
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Posted 2017-August-07, 11:07

 fromageGB, on 2017-August-06, 03:16, said:

Perhaps you are missing the fact that opener's bids of 1♠ 2♠ 3♠ is limited to 14 hcp. No problem : 15+ would be 1♠ 3♠.


Most play the jump in 2/1 as solid suit - or near solid. Hence, the problem.
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Posted 2017-August-07, 14:52

If you open hands light and your rebid promises 6 cards then unbalanced hands in the range of roughly 15-17/14-16 can be a problem. It is a problem one chooses to live with.

example:
1s=2d
2s
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1s=2d or 2h=3c(natural but does not promise extras)

responder assumes opener has a minimum, which opener very often will in fact have. With a lot of extras opener will always push on, so the problem hand becomes roughly 15-17.

btw I should note in this style responder has a very good hand to force
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Posted 2017-August-08, 14:12

A similar question is whether or not a reverse by opener into spades shows extra values in 2/1 - if not using a conventional opening bid to show weak 45s.
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Posted 2017-August-10, 15:34

 dokoko, on 2017-August-06, 07:16, said:

you really jump to 3s on JTxxxx/Axx/AKx/A?


 Winstonm, on 2017-August-07, 11:07, said:

Most play the jump in 2/1 as solid suit - or near solid. Hence, the problem.


Yes, I play the sequence 1♠ 2♦, 3♠ as 15+ 6 card suit, not necessarily semi-solid, but on this hand I would bid 3♦ as support with 15+. Swap the minors and it would be 2NT, 15+. I plan to bid 3♠ later.

Where I do play jump 3♠ as strong and self sufficient is after a forcing 1NT.
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