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#1 User is offline   lamford 

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Posted 2017-April-07, 20:46



Your go. Camrose (a strong international event).
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Posted 2017-April-08, 02:04

View Postlamford, on 2017-April-07, 20:46, said:


Your go. Camrose (a strong international event).

Assuming no special agreements, I rank
  • 2 = NAT. Constructive.
  • 3 = NAT. PRE. Timid but allowing room for partner to bid 3N.
  • 5 = NAT. PRE. Prefer this to 4.
  • 4 = NAT. PRE. 4 and 5 level pre-empts remove 3N as a possibility.
  • Double = T/O. A distortion.
  • 3 = ART. Asking for a stop. A bid weird because it usually implies a good hand with a solid suit.
  • PSYCHs.

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Posted 2017-April-08, 03:58

I am a strong believer that you should resolve such close distributional decisions in favor of overbidding.
There is much more to loose by going low than high.
Going high allows for better information exchange regarding strain and level.
Partner could have a minimum hand with diamond support and a void in cubs, say QJxxxx QJxx Axx -
Bid 2 and if that is forcing to game so be it. This one is not even close
Believe me, even if game has no chance, you will rarely get doubled when your bidding is unlimited.

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Posted 2017-April-08, 05:08

View Postnige1, on 2017-April-08, 02:04, said:

Assuming no special agreements...


One special agreement is that you don't get to double partner's opening. That might change your choices.

Anything but 2D just seems odd.
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Posted 2017-April-08, 08:14

A good argument for 1M - 3m to be invitational (and non-fitting). Think 10 to 12 minus and 0-2 M cards. Better use than preempt (wrong sides hands). Unencumbers forcing NT.

Absent that tool, 2 looks better than 1N for reasons stated upthread.
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Posted 2017-April-08, 10:46

Even if I played 1M 3x as invitational this hand is simply too good.
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Posted 2017-April-08, 10:48

Why wouldn't one bid 2?
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Posted 2017-April-08, 12:42

View Postsfi, on 2017-April-08, 05:08, said:

One special agreement is that you don't get to double partner's opening. That might change your choices. Anything but 2D just seems odd.

I misread the problem :(
I agree with sfi's 2 :)
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Posted 2017-April-08, 15:26

View Postsfi, on 2017-April-08, 05:08, said:

One special agreement is that you don't get to double partner's opening. That might change your choices.

Is that what the Laws refer to as a "special partnership understanding"?
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Posted 2017-April-08, 16:42

View Postlamford, on 2017-April-08, 15:26, said:

Is that what the Laws refer to as a "special partnership understanding"?


Maybe the latest version of the laws is changing the game more than I thought ...
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Posted 2017-April-09, 04:55

At the table in this major international event, South bid 5D and North, with AJxxxx x Qx AKQx raised to the cold slam ... easy game bridge
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Posted 2017-April-09, 05:21

View Postlamford, on 2017-April-09, 04:55, said:

At the table in this major international event, South bid 5D and North, with AJxxx x Qx AKQx raised to the cold slam ... easy game bridge


Did he fail to notice he only had 12 cards ?
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Posted 2017-April-09, 06:00

View Postlamford, on 2017-April-09, 04:55, said:

At the table in this major international event, South bid 5D and North, with AJxxx x Qx AKQx raised to the cold slam ... easy game bridge

Yes, when you guess right it's an easy game.

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Posted 2017-April-09, 11:34

View PostCyberyeti, on 2017-April-09, 05:21, said:

Did he fail to notice he only had 12 cards ?

Sorry, I find that he had AJxxxx spades
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Posted 2017-April-09, 11:42

I'll start with 2 and keep rebidding .
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Posted 2017-April-10, 10:30

View Postlamford, on 2017-April-09, 04:55, said:

At the table in this major international event, South bid 5D and North, with AJxxxx x Qx AKQx raised to the cold slam ... easy game bridge

I'm guessing this pair don't play exclusion key-card, then?
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Posted 2017-April-11, 06:55

I bid 2D. I expect my next bid is 3D. My bid after that will probably be 4D.
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Posted 2017-April-18, 08:20

Agree with almost all of what has been said.

To me there isn't even a question.

I bid 2. Constructive and forcing.

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Posted 2017-April-18, 23:04

View Postnige1, on 2017-April-08, 12:42, said:

I misread the problem :(
I agree with sfi's 2 :)

O.K., then I will agree with RHM's 2, since he said it first.
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