[andrei]

IMP, at fav. vulnerability

Q
AK963
KJT97
J9

(1♦)-1♥-(4♠)-pas-(pas)-?

1♦ opening is precision, showing 1+

[gszes]

THE MINORITY REPORT continues.

5d

this is a tougher problem if rho was not limited. As it is we expect partner to have somewhere between 4-6 hcp and there is a pretty good chance we will find a vey decent fit. If p has a big heart fit our diamonds have enough "body" to come in for maybe 1 loser. It will very tough for the opps to set 5d or 5h for 800 while the opps making 4s looks like a decent shot with the spade Q falling and us having very little "extra" defense behind the opening bidder. Its a risk vs reward game and I would be a ton happier trying to beat 5s than I am trying to sit and set 4s.

[ggwhiz]

1♦ doesn't promise diamonds but it doesn't deny them either.

I rate to go for (at least) 500 against a vul game, not nearly enough upside considering what might happen to me with an rho that can have a pretty strong hand due to the limited nature of the opening bid. Partner having 4-6 points and a fit for a red suit is wishful thinking x 2.

If the other table has a natural 1♣ opener and a good save is found, unlucky but a 5♦ bid deserves to catch partner with a 3-2-2-6 yarb.

[Kaitlyn S]

ggwhiz, on 2017-March-10, 10:26, said:

unlucky but a 5♦ bid deserves to catch partner with a 3-2-2-6 yarb.

Or with the ♠J and the ♣K.

In fact, even a double fit doesn't guarantee a good result.

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Here you have an eight-card fit in both red suits and the opponents have a nine-card fit yet 5 of a red suit is going down, likely doubled, while 4S is very unlikely to make.

Carefully constructed? OK, let me give you some fitting honors AND two eight-card fits, way more than you should expect.

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Can I be any kinder in the red suits? And yet 5H or 5D doubled is off 1, while assuming the 4S bidder has eight spades and five other cards, he scores 7 spade tricks, the ♦A and a club.

[jogs]

Partner's range is more likely to be 0-6 HCP. It is possible to go -1100 or more.

[Winstonm]

I don't think hunting for speculative saves is good or wise bridge. Double game swing seems remote. I pass.

[mr1303]

As others have said, you have excellent defensive prospects. Save when it is likely to be profitable, not a punt.

[eagles123]

agree with everyone else - auto pass.

[nullve]

Kaitlyn S, on 2017-March-10, 11:47, said:

Or with the ♠J and the ♣K.

In fact, even a double fit doesn't guarantee a good result.

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Here you have an eight-card fit in both red suits and the opponents have a nine-card fit yet 5 of a red suit is going down, likely doubled, while 4S is very unlikely to make.

Carefully constructed? OK, let me give you some fitting honors AND two eight-card fits, way more than you should expect.

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Can I be any kinder in the red suits? And yet 5H or 5D doubled is off 1, while assuming the 4S bidder has eight spades and five other cards, he scores 7 spade tricks, the ♦A and a club.

Partner will hopefully use LoTT and pass the double in both cases.

[rmnka447]

I'm a passer also.

♠ Q and ♣ J might be worth something, but how much is hard to determine. I'd tend to treat them as relatively worthless. So besides them, what you've really got is an 11 point 5-5 hand that you're trying to decide whether to compete with at the 5 level.

LHO's 4 ♠ bid just shows long ♠ not necessarily a fit. You have no clue what the 4 ♠ bid is being made on. RHO's hand is limited in Precision, so LHO's hand can be quite good and making a practical bid because slam is known to be out of the question.

If you're going to compete over 4 ♠, you have to know either extreme distribution exists which limits any possible set, or, that a huge fit exists with partner. You certainly don't have extreme distribution (something like ♠ Q ♥ AKQ972 ♦ - ♣ KJ109xx) maybe). And there's just no way to know if a huge fit with partner is there.

So pass.