[Chamaco]

Both hands come from a team match.
I was South in both deals.

One question here to the BBO readers/posters:
do you prefer to have in the same post 2 or more hands (with different topics) or one thread for each hand ?

ciao

Mauro


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Hand 1:

Scoring: IMP

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E......S......W......N
2H...Dbl....4H.....4S
all pass

2H was a natural weak 2.

1) Do you agree with the first t/o double ?
2) Should south make a move towards slam ?

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Hand 2

All vulnerable.
West dealer

I held:

♠T653
♥932
♦KQ
♣AQ83



W......N......E......S
1S....2H....3D.....?

[luke warm]

on hand 2, it looks to me like east has spade support with a diamond suit... i would think partner has a stiff spade, but i'd want to know what the 3d bid meant... if support for spades, i'd bid 4c on the way to 4h... if no support for spades, or if it doesn't show support, i'd bid 3h

hand 1 is tough... i think i'd double also... after 4s, i would probably bid 4nt

[Chamaco]

luke warm, on Apr 16 2005, 11:38 AM, said:

on hand 2, it looks to me like east has spade support with a diamond suit... i would think partner has a stiff spade, but i'd want to know what the 3d bid meant... if support for spades, i'd bid 4c on the way to 4h... if no support for spades, or if it doesn't show support, i'd bid 3h

3D was unalerted, and East was an intermediate-, does not play Robson/Forrester style.

[pbleighton]

1) Tough. Double, then pass 4S reluctantly. QX in hearts is bad for slam.
Over 3S, bid 4D.
2) 3H, though pass is reasonable. At MPs I pass.

Peter

[flytoox]

I much prefer one thread for each hand.

[mike777]

1A) yes
1B) no
2) 3H

[whereagles]

Hand 1 I would bid a straight 3NT. Double runs the risk of hearing spades from pard which would put me in a difficult position.

[pclayton]

1. Yep, stay fixed and pass 4♠. Pard ought to have at least a 5 bagger, else a resp x.

2. I'm OK with 3♥ but I like a responsive double a little better. Oops - never mind - didn't see the change of suit. I'll pass then - this auction is inconceivable with a 11 count.

[Chamaco]

pclayton, on Apr 16 2005, 04:42 PM, said:

1. Yep, stay fixed and pass 4♠. Pard ought to have at least a 5 bagger, else a resp x.

I thought responsive double (to pard's t/o dbl) when they bid and raise a major would show minors and deny spades (whereas resp dbl when they bid and raise a minor would be for major)

[Chamaco]

Ok here goes the next question:

pard's 2H overcall (all vuln) was based on the following hand

♠J2
♥AKQ84
♦86
♣9752

Do you agree with this overcall at IMPS ?
What about MP?

[pclayton]

Chamaco, on Apr 16 2005, 08:50 AM, said:

pclayton, on Apr 16 2005, 04:42 PM, said:

1. Yep, stay fixed and pass 4♠. Pard ought to have at least a 5 bagger, else a resp x.

I thought responsive double (to pard's t/o dbl) when they bid and raise a major would show minors and deny spades (whereas resp dbl when they bid and raise a minor would be for major)

Responsive doubles (choose your level - either starting at the 3 level or 4) are more flexible than that; instead of just showing specific suits, they just show cards.

I play responsive doubles through 7♥, although THATS never come up...

[Chamaco]

pclayton, on Apr 16 2005, 05:26 PM, said:

Responsive doubles (choose your level - either starting at the 3 level or 4) are more flexible than that;

I use Mike Lawrence's following definition, taken from his books on overcalls and on t/o doubles (quite strict):

When responding to pard's t/o double, the responsive double show the 2 suits of the other ranks of the suit bid and raised (minors if they raise a major, majors if they raise a minor).

[pbleighton]

"pard's 2H overcall (all vuln) was based on the following hand

♠J2
♥AKQ84
♦86
♣9752

Do you agree with this overcall at IMPS ?
What about MP?"

No for both.

Yes at any scoring method when not vulnerable.

Peter

[whereagles]

Perfectly ok overcall for me, at any scoring.

[Fluffy]

1) I will do something different and suggest 3♦ instead of take out double. If I had to double I wouldn't move after 4♠.
2) I would bid 4♥, don't see how a responsive double would help us.

I would not overcall 2♥.

[jdulmage]

Hand 1:

2♥-Dbl-4♥-4♠-Pass-5♥ by you. You want to end up somewhere, telling your partner "I have a huge hand, if you have anything extra, help me out". With AJ♥ and 6♠, may bid 6♠ next. However, it is tricky, because you never know how the spades are sitting.

Hand 2:

3♥, no bones about it.

[HeartA]

Hand 1.

1) Yes, dbl is perfectly fine.
2) Yes, I would by bidding 5♠, asked for ♥ stopper.


Hand 2. I would simply bid 3♥. Small ♥s, doubleton ♦KQ, 4432 shape, these are not that great. If pd doesn't have ♣K, it would be most likely in opener's hand (off-side).

[awm]

(1) I'd bid 3♥ over 2♥, stopper ask. My hand is too good for 3♦ and double is likely to run me into exactly this sort of problem. How can I pass 4♠? Couldn't partner have FOUR spades and a good hand?

(2) 3♥ seems normal. KQ tight is a bad holding in diamonds so I wouldn't push too hard for game. I don't like partner's vulnerable overcall, should show more values.