[helene_t]

I think that even if you play 3♠ as preemptive, this hand is too weak. Yes, it may keep opps out of game (or lift them into a not-making game) but then again, as Kaitlyn points out, it also gives away the fit.

I would be afraid that p bids 4♠, hoping for something useful, like a trump honour or singleton or maybe a useful queen.

I am not opposed to pass (which is obviously the normal call), but 1nt doesn't suggest quite as much playing strength for a spade contract as 3♠ does IMHO.

[Kaitlyn S]

GrahamJson, on 2016-November-07, 06:37, said:

I should add one caveat to my previous comments. If you are playing Bergan, and have an agreement that a raise does not show values, then I guess raising is ok.

I play Bergen. My raise to 3 is defined as "4 to 6 support points". Last time my partner made a preemptive raise, I had a powerful 1S opener and bid game and made it. I would not have made it opposite this hand.

[miamijd]

The trouble with bidding here isn't so much getting doubled in a partscore (won't happen) as it is getting too high when partner has a good hand. You have the spade suit, so you aren't likely to be shut out if you pass and await developments.

Bidding 3S (preemptive) immediately shows at least a King more than you have. If partner has a good hand, he'll bid 4S, and now you have traded +110 or +140 for -100 or -200.

Bidding 2S or 1NT(f) have the same drawbacks. You are likely to exchange a plus score for a minus score.

Instead, just pass the first round to show weakness. If the hand gets passed out, great; you probably can't make 4S.

If the opponents come in, you can bid spades at (even at the three level if necessary) at your next turn. Partner will then have a good idea of your hand.

Cheers,
Mike

[mike777]

plaur, on 2016-November-05, 10:28, said:

swiss teams all vul

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What do you bid here and why?

Will you bid different if you play 4 card majors and 2NT as 10+ with sup?

psass no problem yet

[fromageGB]

Bidding a forcing 1NT with Gazzilli is OK. The advantage of 1NT, then giving preference to spades on possibly a doubleton, is that the opps may not know how good they are strength-wise, and that they do not have a known assumed fit.
A 3-bid (bergen or otherwise) is crazy.