[surelyours]

[MrAce]

Are you sure you posted the correct image you intended to?

All I see is a child photo with something written in Chinese alphabet.

[surelyours]

 MrAce, on 2016-August-31, 06:23, said:

Are you sure you posted the correct image you intended to?

All I see is a child photo with something written in Chinese alphabet.

now is it correct? I can see it.
thank you !

[Zelandakh]

"Long minor" here means that your partner has a natural 2♣ or 2♦ takeout, typically a 5-6 card suit and not very much general strength.

[surelyours]

 Zelandakh, on 2016-August-31, 07:04, said:

"Long minor" here means that your partner has a natural 2♣ or 2♦ takeout, typically a 5-6 card suit and not very much general strength.

thank you!

[The_Badger]

hi surelyours,

♣ + ♦ = minor suit, minor meaning 'lower'

♥ + ♠ = major suit, major meaning 'higher'

On the diagram, Rdbl could be ♠xx ♥xxx ♦xx ♣Q98xxx
or, ♠x ♥xx ♦JTxxxxx ♣x

'minor' also means 'small child' in English.

Hope this helps

[MrAce]

 surelyours, on 2016-August-31, 06:50, said:

now is it correct? I can see it.
thank you !

Yes now it is OK. First I thought it was a Spam post.

[MrAce]

 The_Badger, on 2016-August-31, 07:13, said:

hi surelyours,

♣ + ♦ = minor suit, minor meaning 'lower'

♥ + ♠ = major suit, major meaning 'higher'

On the diagram, Rdbl could be ♠xx ♥xxx ♦xx ♣Q98xxx
or, ♠x ♥xx ♦JTxxxxx ♣x

'minor' also means 'small child' in English.

Hope this helps

I assume he is playing with GIB because this looks like a GIB alert. GIB does not run from NT DBL as you suggest, keeps transfers etc. Not the best way but I think they kept it this way for simplicity.

[surelyours]

 Zelandakh, on 2016-August-31, 07:04, said:

"Long minor" here means that your partner has a natural 2♣ or 2♦ takeout, typically a 5-6 card suit and not very much general strength.

but how should I continue bidding with this hand? when I bidded 3c , he passed with a hand of 4 clubs and 6 diamonds.

[surelyours]

 MrAce, on 2016-August-31, 07:14, said:

Yes now it is OK. First I thought it was a Spam post.

you are right, I edited the url. for the first site doesnot support very vell, I upload the img onto another site.

[Tramticket]

Partner is not expecting you to continue bidding. You have limited your hand with the 1NT opening, painting a well defined description of your hand. He has shown a weak hand. You should pass the 2♥ bid. Your partner may choose to compete if 2♥ is passed around to him - normally he would not do so, but with 6-4 in the minors he might ...

[surelyours]

 MrAce, on 2016-August-31, 07:14, said:

Yes now it is OK. First I thought it was a Spam post.

what do you suggest my following bidding MrACE? now I know he has long minors, but don't know which is longer?

[surelyours]

 Tramticket, on 2016-August-31, 07:37, said:

Partner is not expecting you to continue bidding. You have limited your hand with the 1NT opening, painting a well defined description of your hand. He has shown a weak hand. You should pass the 2♥ bid. Your partner may choose to compete if 2♥ is passed around to him - normally he would not do so, but with 6-4 in the minors he might ...

Thank you! Tramticket

[The_Badger]

 surelyours, on 2016-August-31, 07:22, said:

but how should I continue bidding with this hand? when I bidded 3c , he passed with a hand of 4 clubs and 6 diamonds.

Do you want to bid again, surelyours? Partner could have a very poor hand and you run the risk of a big penalty when the opponents cannot make game. Pass the 2♥ bid is the best option, I feel

[surelyours]

 MrAce, on 2016-August-31, 07:16, said:

I assume he is playing with GIB because this looks like a GIB alert. GIB does not run from NT DBL as you suggest, keeps transfers etc. Not the best way but I think they kept it this way for simplicity.

it is GIB

[surelyours]

 The_Badger, on 2016-August-31, 07:42, said:

Do you want to bid again, surelyours? Partner could have a very poor hand and you run the risk of a big penalty when the opponents cannot make game. Pass the 2♥ bid is the best option, I feel

Thank you! got it.

[barmar]

You have 17 HCP. West's double shows 16-17 HCP (since robot duplicate tournaments are "best hand", West can't have more HCP than you). So there are at most 7 HCP distributed between North and East, and you should probably assume they're split about evenly. So North has about 3 HCP -- do you really want to be playing at the 3 level?

Before you make your 3♣ bid, you should hover over it to see what it means. I think you will see that it shows 5+ clubs, so the robot thought it was a 9-card fit. Why should it correct to 3♦? Once East bids, you're not in a pass-or-correct situation any more -- your bid shows a suit of your own.

[MrAce]

 surelyours, on 2016-August-31, 07:39, said:

what do you suggest my following bidding MrACE? now I know he has long minors, but don't know which is longer?

He does not have long minors. He has only one long minor (5+). and he is weak.

I would pass. My hand is way too balanced. Make it 4-3 minors and a doubleton ♥, then I may consider bidding 3♣ if that is pass or correct. As Barry said this may not be the case though.

[Zelandakh]

 MrAce, on 2016-August-31, 11:11, said:

I may consider bidding 3♣ if that is pass or correct. As Barry said this may not be the case though.

I think the right way to play here is for 3♣ to show clubs with diamond tolerance and 2NT to show diamonds with club tolerance but GIB most likely has 3m natural and 2NT asking for the minor.

[1eyedjack]

I think that there SHOULD be a method for South to compete with support for both minors.
I think that 3C (or 2N if you wish) SHOULD show such a hand, and North should pull to 3D if that is his "long minor".

Whether South has a suitable hand for competing may be debatable. Personally I think that he has, but only subject to the above agreement and obviously not if GIB is programmed to pass without correcting.