[HeartA]

I noticed that some bid NT without stoppers (only care for shape). I have been against this idea. I would NOT (NEVER ) bid 2NT with Txxx.

[the hog]

Ok, then here is your hand -
Txxx
xxx
xxx
xxx

(1S) X (P) 2C
(P) 2S (P) ?

Now what? 3C??

Note that on this auction you have a stopper opposite a stiff honour, but pd may still need to know if it is a "genuine" stopper. - look at the hand my pd bid and change it a bit

xx
AKQJxx
AKx
Ax

He, (she), needs to know if you bid 2N on Txxx or Jxxx

[HeartA]

The_Hog, on Apr 12 2005, 08:11 PM, said:

Ok, then here is your hand -
Txxx
xxx
xxx
xxx

(1S) X (P) 2C
(P)  2S (P) ?

Now what? 3C??

3♣, no other choices. If my pd bid 3♠ again (asking for half stopper), I might consider 3NT.

[the hog]

Well I think you'd find most bid 2N as a scramble on that hand and not show pd that I have a real C suit.

[jdulmage]

I find the 3♠ bid out of place, this better show a void in ♠, asking to start off with cuebidding first round controls, if any. If nothing, bid 3NT and I'll set the contract in it's rightful place.

Cuebidding twice always confused me, because it really has no place in an auction except to try for a minor slam (in this case anyways).