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Here we go Again

Poll: Here we go Again (35 member(s) have cast votes)

Your Call

  1. Pass (1 votes [2.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  2. 2d (26 votes [74.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 74.29%

  3. Double (8 votes [22.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.86%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2016-August-22, 16:19



Matchpoints

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Posted 2016-August-22, 16:44

2. This is an ugly hand. Every time someone posts a board where third seat opened it has always been right to bid. Therefore the question is if East open 1 in 1st seat would it be right to overcall 2 in second seat?
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Posted 2016-August-22, 16:45

I will try double, pass is reasonable, no 2d here. I think this is a one bid hand and then out..
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Posted 2016-August-22, 17:07

2 eats a fair bit of their bidding space, and will fetch the right lead from P, should W happen to be playing the contract, so I'll opt for that.

If West's 2 comes back to me, we'll get a second chance to play in 2.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 23:05

Pass. The last thing I want is to involved in a competitive auction after partner's passed. 2 doesn't feel right vulnerable. There's a fair chance you will be on lead anyway, and I'd rather see how the auction pans out before entering.

Given that 1 opener was in 3rd, let's wait for the 2 Drury, the 1 bid, the 1NT response, etc, etc, from his partner because you will still have a good chance to enter the auction with a X or 2if it fades quickly.

I don't like passing, as 2 is lead directional too. But this is the sort of hand I would err on the side of caution. I'm never keen on X with a doubleton in the opponent's suit and only 3 cards in the other major. Given that you can just about scrape half-a-trick (on a good day) from s too, it's not a great hand outside the suit.

As jogs says: This is an ugly hand. :( Ugly hands are best not bid, in my opinion.
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Posted 2016-August-22, 23:19

2D, but only because of the lead. I don't mind double on 3S but I only really have one thing to be proud of here, and that's the diamonds. Double invites too many spades from partner. Pass could be best.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 03:31

Normally this vul and passed partner would warrant being cautious overcalling 2x with a flat hand, but the diamonds are too good to not mention them.

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Posted 2016-August-23, 06:33

i'd just pass. i'll reconsider if lho bids 2h and it comes back to me.

if i doubled i wouldn't feel happy about p bidding 2S if LHO hasn't shown a fit. it would often be 200 and a catastrophe.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 07:46

X marks the spot

With a 6th dia I would bid 2d since 3n opposite a passed hand is still reasonable. With this hand game is very unlikely so we choose x because it allows for the widest range of strains at the lowest possible level. 2d loses too much of its value (lead direction) since the odds are kind of heavy we will be on opening lead.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 10:48

It's a solid 12 pointer, 2 QTs, 7 losers, so you should take some action.

I'm bidding 2 to show where my values are. I'd do it at any form of scoring, but think it's especially important at MPs as a potential lead director and help to partner on defense.

It also has the secondary effect of making it a little more difficult for the opponents to find a possible fit by taking away 1 as a bid. Also, LHO may not be strong enough or have the right hand to make a negative double.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 11:42

2 puts the fear of notrump in them and if they land there with partner on lead after a double it could really suck.

Risky though and a fast pass at imps.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 12:16

2D only because my diamonds are great and my spades suck.
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Posted 2016-August-23, 14:48

thanks all - as it happens the overall result wasnt affected by the action taken they ended in some partscore regardless of what i did. FWIW I doubled but strongly considered pass, i didn't give much thought to 2D.

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Posted 2016-August-23, 20:15

View Posteagles123, on 2016-August-23, 14:48, said:

thanks all - as it happens the overall result wasnt affected by the action taken they ended in some partscore regardless of what i did. FWIW I doubled but strongly considered pass, i didn't give much thought to 2D.

Thx

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You know I wrote this many times that I do not make 2/1 overcalls with 5332 unless the suit is extremely good. This is why voted for 2. That is a very good suit and you want pd to lead it + when you have this quality of suit not easy punish you even when it was wrong to overcall 2.
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