Help
Page 1 of 1
Matchpoints. What do you bid?
#1
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 180
- Joined: 2003-July-10
- Gender:Male
- Location:Henderson, NV
- Interests:Bridge, Poker
Posted 2016-April-16, 09:32
#2
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,103
- Joined: 2009-May-03
- Gender:Male
- Location:Kent (Near London)
Posted 2016-April-16, 15:02
Much depends on your standards for a Michaels bid. If your minimum for this bid is 5HCP ...
But opps rate to have at least a 10-card club fit, so you are worth competing to at least 3H (not an option in your poll ☺).
But opps rate to have at least a 10-card club fit, so you are worth competing to at least 3H (not an option in your poll ☺).
#3
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,866
- Joined: 2008-July-13
Posted 2016-April-16, 18:21
3d - i know what trumps are and it's not hearts.
#4
- 5-level belongs to me
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 9,128
- Joined: 2004-August-30
- Gender:Male
- Location:Glasgow Scotland
- Interests:Poems Computers
#5
- Group: Members
- Posts: 1
- Joined: 2014-August-07
Posted 2016-April-16, 23:52
nige1, on 2016-April-16, 22:21, said:
IMO, over a minor, a Michaels cue-bid should show ♠ and an unbid suit rather than just the majors,
A sensible requirement for a Michaels cue bid is:
Adequate high-card strength, honour-concentration, suit-length and suit-quality, to encourage partner to compete to the game-level, at least, when he has 4-card support for one of your suits.
Not vul this can be as little as
♠ Q J x x x ♥ Q J x x x ♦ x ♣ x x
Here, assuming that partner is just showing the majors, I rank
A sensible requirement for a Michaels cue bid is:
Adequate high-card strength, honour-concentration, suit-length and suit-quality, to encourage partner to compete to the game-level, at least, when he has 4-card support for one of your suits.
Not vul this can be as little as
♠ Q J x x x ♥ Q J x x x ♦ x ♣ x x
Here, assuming that partner is just showing the majors, I rank
- 2N = ASK, preparatory to slam-try,
- 4♥ = S/O.
- 3♦ = NAT F1.
- 5♦ = NAT.
- 2♦ = NAT
#6
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 973
- Joined: 2013-February-24
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dundee Scotland United Kingdom
- Interests:Occasional chess player. Dominoes
Posted 2016-April-17, 00:33
Tramticket, on 2016-April-16, 15:02, said:
Much depends on your standards for a Michaels bid. If your minimum for this bid is 5HCP ...
But opps rate to have at least a 10-card club fit, so you are worth competing to at least 3H (not an option in your poll ☺).
But opps rate to have at least a 10-card club fit, so you are worth competing to at least 3H (not an option in your poll ☺).
My problem with this is... IS it a Michaels bid(?) I'm of the old school where a direct cue bid of the
enemy suit showed a rock crusher of a hand equivlant of a 2♣opener and forcing to at least Game.
It gravitates back to the old chestnut of partnership agreement.
"It is not enough to be a good player, you must also play well"
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
#7
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,512
- Joined: 2003-February-16
Posted 2016-April-17, 00:54
Partner has shown majors 5/5 or longer and the question is (to me) will I make a game in H? An agreement on how to advance to define the value of partners hand helps. Many play weak or strong, some play any hand for the 2C bid with the focus on shape. How your partnership defines the response to 2N (inquiry) depends on you. Game in diamonds is also possible, but all revolves around asking and telling.
#8
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 560
- Joined: 2014-October-11
Posted 2016-April-17, 01:38
5D looks like a reasonable punt to me, unless partner is of the sort who bids Michaels on tram tickets.
#9
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 342
- Joined: 2009-April-01
- Gender:Male
- Location:Chicago Suburbs
Posted 2016-April-17, 06:08
PhilG007, on 2016-April-17, 00:33, said:
IS it a Michaels bid(?)
Of course it's Michaels. The OP shows it as 5/5 Majors.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. George Carlin
#10
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 268
- Joined: 2013-March-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:South Florida
- Interests:Bridge, Football, Coaching, Family, Writing
Posted 2016-April-17, 06:12
I value this hand at 18 TP's and do not hesitate to bid 4H.
#11
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 2,866
- Joined: 2008-July-13
Posted 2016-April-17, 07:26
masse24, on 2016-April-17, 06:08, said:
Of course it's Michaels. The OP shows it as 5/5 Majors. 
He's not being serious. He seems to get off on making himself look like an idiot. Noone who's capable of using the internet can be so bad and self-deluded.
#12
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 973
- Joined: 2013-February-24
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dundee Scotland United Kingdom
- Interests:Occasional chess player. Dominoes
Posted 2016-April-17, 08:23
wank, on 2016-April-17, 07:26, said:
He's not being serious. He seems to get off on making himself look like an idiot. Noone who's capable of using the internet can be so bad and self-deluded.
Your bad manners are exceeded only by your bad manners. This game doesn't revolve around you alone
although you might like to think so(!)
"It is not enough to be a good player, you must also play well"
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
#13
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 17,285
- Joined: 2005-January-08
- Gender:Male
- Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
- Interests:Art, music
Posted 2016-April-17, 12:38
5D now instead of later.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
#14
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 1,168
- Joined: 2012-May-17
- Gender:Male
- Location:Cincinnati Unit 124
- Interests:Family, Travel, Bridge Tournaments and Writing. Youth Bridge
Posted 2016-April-17, 12:54
Playing 2N as 3 card LR+ and 3♣ as 4+ GF. Plan 2N then 4♦ if possible, 4N if not.
Be the partner you want to play with.
Trust demands integrity, balance and collaboration.
District 11
Unit 124
Steve Moese
Trust demands integrity, balance and collaboration.
District 11
Unit 124
Steve Moese
#15
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 10,092
- Joined: 2008-December-11
- Gender:Male
- Location:North Texas, USA
- Interests:Mountain Biking
Posted 2016-April-17, 12:56
2D if I'm feeling scientific but at the table I'd probably just bash 4H.
Hi y'all!
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#16
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 10,092
- Joined: 2008-December-11
- Gender:Male
- Location:North Texas, USA
- Interests:Mountain Biking
Posted 2016-April-17, 12:57
PhilG007, on 2016-April-17, 00:33, said:
My problem with this is... IS it a Michaels bid(?) I'm of the old school where a direct cue bid of the
enemy suit showed a rock crusher of a hand equivlant of a 2♣opener and forcing to at least Game.
It gravitates back to the old chestnut of partnership agreement.
enemy suit showed a rock crusher of a hand equivlant of a 2♣opener and forcing to at least Game.
It gravitates back to the old chestnut of partnership agreement.
Don't be a troll please.
Hi y'all!
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#17
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 238
- Joined: 2015-October-09
Posted 2016-April-17, 14:01
I don't like any of the alternatives listed. I would just bid 5D. You can't bid with precision here. All I know is would not be that unusual to make 5D. AQ of hearts and King of spades with partner gives us a chance.
I also know that diamonds are going to be trump on this deal unless they are playing 6Cx. You see, when you play with me there is a special name given to my strong 8 card suits: TRUMPS!
I also know that diamonds are going to be trump on this deal unless they are playing 6Cx. You see, when you play with me there is a special name given to my strong 8 card suits: TRUMPS!
#18
- Group: Full Members
- Posts: 973
- Joined: 2013-February-24
- Gender:Male
- Location:Dundee Scotland United Kingdom
- Interests:Occasional chess player. Dominoes
Posted 2016-April-18, 00:56
Phil, on 2016-April-17, 12:57, said:
Don't be a troll please.
Don't be a bore please
"It is not enough to be a good player, you must also play well"
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
#19
- enigmatic
-
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 4,757
- Joined: 2009-July-31
- Gender:Male
Posted 2016-April-18, 06:19
wank, on 2016-April-17, 07:26, said:
He's not being serious. He seems to get off on making himself look like an idiot. Noone who's capable of using the internet can be so bad and self-deluded.
You have far too much faith in human intelligence.
IMO Hanlon's razor applies here.
Life is long and beautiful, if bad things happen, good things will follow.
-gwnn
-gwnn
#20
- Group: Advanced Members
- Posts: 10,257
- Joined: 2005-March-18
- Gender:Male
Posted 2016-April-18, 14:00
4H, but I miss 5D.
First of all, I want to be in game, I am not sure, if 5D has better odds
than 4H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
First of all, I want to be in game, I am not sure, if 5D has better odds
than 4H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Page 1 of 1
A sensible requirement for a Michaels cue-bid is:
Adequate high-card strength, honour-concentration, suit-length and suit-quality, to encourage partner to compete to the game-level, at least, when he has 4-card support for one of your suits.
Not vul this can be as little as
♠ Q J x x x ♥ Q J x x x ♦ x ♣ x x
Here, assuming that partner is just showing the majors, I rank