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Trap Pass Gone Wrong
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Posted 2016-April-13, 17:45
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if you disagree with the initial pass then please say
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2016-April-13, 22:25
I'm find with the first pass. It's easy for the opponents to get stuck in 2C for -300/500 when we don't have a game.
Now on the second round, it feels logical that double should show a penalty pass (of clubs) but with enough outside values that our side can probably make something, or defend profitably if partner has diamond values.
So having conveniently defined double to show this hand, I would double
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Now on the second round, it feels logical that double should show a penalty pass (of clubs) but with enough outside values that our side can probably make something, or defend profitably if partner has diamond values.
So having conveniently defined double to show this hand, I would double
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Posted 2016-April-13, 22:40
Agree with pass
easy 4s now. I have a great hand for 4s.
Please note pard opened 1s and made a free bid of 2s.
I am more worried about missing 6 than going down in 4.
easy 4s now. I have a great hand for 4s.
Please note pard opened 1s and made a free bid of 2s.
I am more worried about missing 6 than going down in 4.
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Posted 2016-April-14, 06:56
I don't think that partner has to pass a double of 3D. So while I may fancy my chances in 4S I think I prefer my chances in 3DX if partner is minded to leave it. So I would start with X of 3D, and then reconsider 4S as an option when it is not left there. The initial pass over 2C is a no-brainer.
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2016-April-14, 07:57
Double shows this flavor of a hand in my partnership too.
Partner will almost always pull with the appropriate shape and leave it in when we may have caught the 2♦ bidder with little except a fear of clubs.
Partner will almost always pull with the appropriate shape and leave it in when we may have caught the 2♦ bidder with little except a fear of clubs.
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Posted 2016-April-14, 08:06
Double shows a slightly better diamond holding for me, and it's not like this hand has stellar defense anyway. I'd hate for partner to convert with 6421 where they come close to making or make and we just have a breezy 4S.
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Posted 2016-April-14, 16:18
I am always inclined to bid constructively rather than make trap passes in the hope of picking up a penalty - particularly at these colours. But a first round double seems to leave me snookered if partner responds 2D. So I pass, reluctantly on the first round.
Having passed, I am certainly not worried about missing a slam (as Mike777 thinks). I expect my partner's 2S to be based on shape rather than additional strength (she would have doubled with extras).
I have a difficult bid now - 4S might be be right, but it's guessing. I think a second round double gives us the better options.
Having passed, I am certainly not worried about missing a slam (as Mike777 thinks). I expect my partner's 2S to be based on shape rather than additional strength (she would have doubled with extras).
I have a difficult bid now - 4S might be be right, but it's guessing. I think a second round double gives us the better options.
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Posted 2016-April-14, 18:09
Phil, on 2016-April-14, 08:06, said:
I'd hate for partner to convert with 6421
Would you not double with that hand to bring hearts into the picture?
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