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#1 User is offline   ahydra 

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Posted 2016-January-22, 05:12

NS play precision-style, 14-16 NT, 1M is 11-15, 5+ cards unless 4M5C. Non-expert opps.



3D is not forcing.

What would you do differently as either North or South to reach the cold grand slam?

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Posted 2016-January-22, 07:13

would 3s by North have been NF? If so then I put a lot of the blame to the methods, but maybe south can volunteer a 5c cue - he has a pretty good hand if 4s is showing extras
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Posted 2016-January-22, 08:38

View Posteagles123, on 2016-January-22, 07:13, said:

would 3s by North have been NF? If so then I put a lot of the blame to the methods, but maybe south can volunteer a 5c cue - he has a pretty good hand if 4s is showing extras


5♣ is mandatory and sign off in 5♠ if partner doesn't bid 5♦. Could be wrong though, what does partner do with KJ10xxxxx, x, Jx, AK.
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Posted 2016-January-22, 09:01

What the heck is North thinking? 17 HCP, a 5-loser hand which requires the spade to not come in to only be 5 losers, and an unvalued critical heart Queen in the LTC, three covers for partner's suits, a self-playing spade suit, and 2...4 is the call?

If I was pushed into a completely natural call with the North hand, I would try 5♠.



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Posted 2016-January-22, 12:24

+1 with Ken. North has a powerhouse, almost self-sufficent S and fitting honors with partners' suits. All he is worried about is the C suit and 5S should do it (well, you could be 2 aces off if partner has KQ of C and no HA). System does not seem to help, though.

Maybe S could hide this ratty D suit when he has such a good H suit and a good tolerance for S. Rebidding 3H (6-cd suit) might then motivate N to cue?
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Posted 2016-January-26, 09:48

I still like strong jump shifts

1h
2c
3s at least 6 spades max loser suit (this is trumps)
3n spade honor should be no loser suit now
4d cue
5c splinter main difference btn splinter and a cue bid is that the cue bid would show the club A or K thus bidding 4h (even if considered last train) would show the club A or K
6s only the worst of dog openings will fail to make 6 here
7s void extra spade and pretty good heart suit for extras
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