[apollo1201]

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[YES, 2♠ is N's bid but I don't manage to edit the diagram]


Despite ♠K offside, 11 tricks duly made, and +200 was replicated at the other table.

FWIW, I was S and on the positive side, I had a 5th trump and a fitting ♥ honor for partner, but my ♦K could be lost, I didn't have muche more than promised, and partner could be weak with 4522. So 3 against, 2 for, I passed. With the ♦A I would have proposed 3♠.

So any comments are welcome!

This post has been edited by diana_eva: 2016-January-18, 18:00
Reason for edit: fixed diagram

[eagles123]

I'm guessing the diagram is wrong and the 2s bid is actually from North?

in which case total blame to North 2s is a ridiculous bid

[billw55]

eagles123, on 2016-January-18, 15:30, said:

I'm guessing the diagram is wrong and the 2s bid is actually from North?

in which case total blame to North 2s is a ridiculous bid

I also prefer double for north's first bid.

[gszes]

I think N just forgot to imagine what the south hand must look like after the x showing spades and dia. The opps have bid and raised clubs on what looks to be around 18 hcp. P will not often have much less than 8 to enter the bidding this way. We have a singleton club and a hand not too far from a max. Sure p will sometimes have the useless club K but this bidding seems to indicate that will not happen much so not being in game seems just wrong. I would bid 4s and be surprised if it did not make. For the real pessimist maybe a 3s bid will cut it
but at IMP style scoring you would have to be having a really bad day (I hear they pay a big bonus for bidding vul games).

[kuhchung]

I usually make terse responses on the forums to hide my ignorance, but I'll try stepping out a bit here.

North has a stiff, 3 aces, and knows they are in a 9 card spade fit. His Axxxx of hearts is really nice opposite a doubleton too imo. Definitely worth more than 2S.

Over 2S, from south's point of view, north has some crappy 8-10 count with 3 spades. No way south can move.

If north bids 3S, south knows Kx of hearts is golden and can just try and stab a game. Granted, the hands don't have to fit this well, but it must have play.

North is closer to just stabbing 4S himself than bidding 2.

Edit: oh I suck I thought double was 5S2H, misread the auction. See? I should've just kept it short.

[Cyberyeti]

N hand is worth a bit more than 14 on this auction, 3♠ rather than 2

[kenberg]

Perhaps all has been said already but another vote for 3S by N. I assume that he might have overcalled 1H on fewer points and his 2S bid does not show anything extra since ha has to bid something over the double. So, imo, 3S is surely warranted and 2S could be on much less.

[mgoetze]

Mainly I blame the opponents for only bidding to the 2-level with a 10-card fit. Secondmost blame goes to North - while perhaps a tad light for 3♠ it is a better description of his hand than 2♠.

[mcphee]

N must have not seen one of those aces, maybe the D ace. Easy 3S bid for me and the responsive dble has an easy raise. I would not fault 4S but feel it would be punishing partner.

[Charlie Yu]

What does X show? If it is 44+ pointed suited I don't think I want to venture 3S yet

[LAVENDERi]

Of course N 100%

First, the 1st bid of north was a take-out double. The most important of bidding is to find the fit of two but not just the suit of one. North seemed like a selfish player. Secondly with your responsive double, north should jump his bid to 3S instead of a passive responce 2S which promised 9+pts and 3+spades only. Didn't he know he had 4 good support and 14hcp and a useful singleton on opps' suit?

North doesn't know bridge.

[ggwhiz]

LAVENDERi, on 2016-January-20, 10:53, said:

Of course N 100%
North doesn't know bridge.

Overbid of the year decade.

Overcalling 1♥ planning on doubling when/if 2♣ comes back to you is a legitimate style debated with a close split in previous threads. The idea is that if you catch partner with something like a 3-3-4-3 double gets you to diamonds. Hardly selfish if you both play it.

Playing that style makes north worth a 3♠ bid here but it's probably a common error to get a little lazy or even have a partner like mine that accepts 99.9% of all invites. Not knowing which (and the opponents inspired silence) makes my vote mostly north instead of 100%.

[apollo1201]

Thanks all for your comments and double thanks to Diana who kindly updated the diagram. She is always so nice to everyone ♥! I am posting anysoon another one from the pair competition, with a braver partner as you will see!