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That escalated quickly
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Posted 2016-January-12, 08:58
You're playing Polish Club, if you somehow think that matters.
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Posted 2016-January-12, 10:03
I don't know if PC matters, is 2♣ GF ? We would play X as exactly 4 hearts here and that's what I'd bid.
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Posted 2016-January-12, 10:35
Cyberyeti, on 2016-January-12, 10:03, said:
I don't know if PC matters, is 2♣ GF ?
Well, we agreed after the hand to play it as GF, but it wasn't clear at the time. WJ05 stipulates the archaic "GF unless 3♣ rebid" style. Does it really matter, though?
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Posted 2016-January-12, 14:01
I will try 4d rather than double.
I hope this shows excellent d...short spades and some h cards. I am willing to lose the 4-4 fit to show I don't like 3nt but I have xtras and very long d.
Looking for slam here and I hope bidding 4d rather than x makes that easier.
With a minimum I would pass, with good club support I would bid 4c.
I hope this shows excellent d...short spades and some h cards. I am willing to lose the 4-4 fit to show I don't like 3nt but I have xtras and very long d.
Looking for slam here and I hope bidding 4d rather than x makes that easier.
With a minimum I would pass, with good club support I would bid 4c.
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Posted 2016-January-12, 14:01
I doubt we'll be left in 4♥, and if we're bidding higher, I'd rather play in diamonds than a 4-4 ♥ fit, so if I have a forcing 4♦ I'll just bid that.
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
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Posted 2016-January-12, 14:56
Jinksy, on 2016-January-12, 14:01, said:
I doubt we'll be left in 4♥, and if we're bidding higher, I'd rather play in diamonds than a 4-4 ♥ fit, so if I have a forcing 4♦ I'll just bid that.
This is an issue if partner has say QJx, AQxx, x, Axxxx where you have 12 tricks in diamonds, 13 in hearts, I'd rather suggest hearts as I can also find the Q which I can't do with diamonds agreed.
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Posted 2016-January-15, 02:50
4d. simple bridge I rebid my 7 solid suit
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Posted 2016-January-15, 06:08
too simple for me. i'd play 4d as nf if 2c isn't GF, which op says it's not. i'd bid 4s and 5d over 5c.
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Posted 2016-January-15, 13:06
if 2c was gf I would bid 4h and would do so even if we use a neg x to show 4 hearts since there is little to no desire to have p convert such an x to penalty. Even if p thought we had 5 hearts surely we would have 7/8 diamonds to open 1d so our 4h bid gives a VERY close approximation to our actual hand.
if 2c was not gf much tougher since p might be bidding 2c with all manner of significantly weaker hands. I would have a tendency to just pretend I had 3 little clubs and bid 4s and not worry much about the heart suit. If p wishes to sign off in 5c we can convert to 5d. The problem with a 4h bid is that p may feel stuck if they have one of those weaker 2c bids and they might pass from fear (something a nice robust opening hand will not do).
The key in both case is that we are showing a hand with lots of offensive potential and little to no interest in 3n or 3s x (which should indicate pretty short spades).
if 2c was not gf much tougher since p might be bidding 2c with all manner of significantly weaker hands. I would have a tendency to just pretend I had 3 little clubs and bid 4s and not worry much about the heart suit. If p wishes to sign off in 5c we can convert to 5d. The problem with a 4h bid is that p may feel stuck if they have one of those weaker 2c bids and they might pass from fear (something a nice robust opening hand will not do).
The key in both case is that we are showing a hand with lots of offensive potential and little to no interest in 3n or 3s x (which should indicate pretty short spades).
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