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1NT is 14-16 balanced.
2♣ is promissory Stayman, it includes 5+m4M GF hands.
Opener's pass would tend to deny 4 hearts, double would have been "takeout".
What message is responder sending now with these two different ways to bid 3♦?
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Posted 2016-January-07, 15:46
1NT is 14-16 balanced.
2♣ is promissory Stayman, it includes 5+m4M GF hands.
Opener's pass would tend to deny 4 hearts, double would have been "takeout".
What message is responder sending now with these two different ways to bid 3♦?
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Posted 2016-January-07, 16:01
i think both are forcing.
in both sequences responder will have four hearts.
the first sequence maybe shows a hand that does not want to be passed in a takeout double, something with little defence like: x qjxx xx kqtxxx, or possibly something with chances for slam.
anyway, opener should not think too hard about this, he just be descriptive and let his partner figure it out.
in both sequences responder will have four hearts.
the first sequence maybe shows a hand that does not want to be passed in a takeout double, something with little defence like: x qjxx xx kqtxxx, or possibly something with chances for slam.
anyway, opener should not think too hard about this, he just be descriptive and let his partner figure it out.
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Posted 2016-January-07, 16:12
X is presumably convertible values, with direct 3♦ more distributional.
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
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Posted 2016-January-07, 16:51
fwiw I would take both as gf and long natural d.
that means partner can never start with 2c and less than inv+ unless garbage stayman which they deny here.
I guess the second one with "x" would tend to be very short spades, bid in case you have a penalty x. the first longer spades so less likely you had a penalty x.
so the first may look like something close to:
xx..Axxx..AKxxxx...x?
the second something close to:
x...Axxx...AKxxxx..xx?
I think you said in the OP that responder promised a major suit, yes?
that means partner can never start with 2c and less than inv+ unless garbage stayman which they deny here.
I guess the second one with "x" would tend to be very short spades, bid in case you have a penalty x. the first longer spades so less likely you had a penalty x.
so the first may look like something close to:
xx..Axxx..AKxxxx...x?
the second something close to:
x...Axxx...AKxxxx..xx?
I think you said in the OP that responder promised a major suit, yes?
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Posted 2016-January-07, 19:29
The double should show a doubleton spade and convertible values. The direct bid has higher ODR and not 2 spade cards.
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Posted 2016-January-07, 19:32
1st auction is game-forcing, the second one is not.
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Posted 2016-January-08, 01:37
convertible values of double complicated....wow
bbo players know which=
penalty or takeout easier
bbo players know which=
penalty or takeout easier
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