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#1 User is offline   1axbycz1 

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Posted 2016-January-01, 20:43



IMPs scoring.
W leads A, then A, then a small to East's king. After that a low is returned.

(I was playing with 3 robots, if that matters.)

My plan: rise K, play 2 rounds of diamonds and ruff a third round hoping to establish the suit.

This plan works if:
1. W has 3 diamonds and E has 2, trumps not 5-0, or
2. W has 2 diamonds and E has 3, in which the 3rd round must be ruffed high. so this needs trumps 3-2

Anyone has a better line?
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Posted 2016-January-02, 06:28

Only slightly better would be to draw KA first and then you might beat East having a singleton 9 or 10 of trumps or even diamonds 4-1.
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Posted 2016-January-02, 07:10

So basically you are planning to be overruffed in diamonds once. That seems rather unpredictable to me, I think I'd rather just ruff 2 spades and then draw trumps.
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Posted 2016-January-03, 01:20

View Postmgoetze, on 2016-January-02, 07:10, said:

So basically you are planning to be overruffed in diamonds once. That seems rather unpredictable to me, I think I'd rather just ruff 2 spades and then draw trumps.


Can you explain how you get the entries to ruff spades?
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Posted 2016-January-03, 04:46

View Post1axbycz1, on 2016-January-03, 01:20, said:

Can you explain how you get the entries to ruff spades?

The first has already been given to you by the opponents returning spades. Then you just cross to hand in trumps and play another low spade. Keep the K for last.
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Posted 2016-January-03, 08:34

View Postmgoetze, on 2016-January-02, 07:10, said:

So basically you are planning to be overruffed in diamonds once. That seems rather unpredictable to me, I think I'd rather just ruff 2 spades and then draw trumps.


Vastly superior since it only requires a 32 trump break. The best setting up the dia suit can come up with is the same 32 trump break and dia also breaking 32 + a small chance of surviving a 41 trump split held by lho.
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Posted 2016-January-03, 09:48

View Postmgoetze, on 2016-January-03, 04:46, said:

The first has already been given to you by the opponents returning spades. Then you just cross to hand in trumps and play another low spade. Keep the K for last.


After ruff, trump to hand, ruff, dummy has one trump honor left, which you play, which is the 2nd round of trumps drawn. Don't you now have to play on diamonds to get back to hand to draw the 3rd round of trumps, risking diamond ruff/trump promotion anyway?
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Posted 2016-January-03, 17:35

View Post1axbycz1, on 2016-January-01, 20:43, said:


IMPs scoring.
W leads A, then A, then a small to East's king. After that a low is returned.
(I was playing with 3 robots, if that matters.)
My plan: rise K, play 2 rounds of diamonds and ruff a third round hoping to establish the suit.
This plan works if:
1. W has 3 diamonds and E has 2, trumps not 5-0, or
2. W has 2 diamonds and E has 3, in which the 3rd round must be ruffed high. so this needs trumps 3-2
Anyone has a better line?
For reasons explained by wanoff and Stephen Tu, 1axbycz1's line seems best.
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Posted 2016-January-07, 10:46

the line of defence is quite strange. cashing one lonely ace, then caashing another lonely ace the switching back to the first suit.
what does west try to achieve by cashing his spade ace?
im suspicious. what is the most likely type of hand for west?
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