[fourdad]

1eyedjack, on 2015-December-22, 07:43, said:

Because my partners are sufficiently intelligent and mature to appreciate that no partnership agreement provides a guaranteed path to the right spot, and that such violations, when they arise, are reasoned.

Being intelligent means NOT playing with those who think that they are "reasonable" when they blatantly ignore partnershipp agreements! Myopic, perhaps, not "reasoned".

[mike777]

UdcaDenny, on 2015-December-21, 22:31, said:

We play 2/1 with gameforcing jumpreverse. I had following hand: 10xx 10xxx AJ9x xx and P opened 1♣. After my 1♥ he jumped to 2♠ which I passed. I thought that it was unlikely that we had game with my poor 5 points. Was it wrong to pass ? Yes or no and add a comment please if you like.

It seems your 1h was perfectly normal if you play Walsh style and now you have an easy 2nt rebid. You could have so much less.

If your partner wants you to pass 1c with this hand then you can discuss that later in the bar.

You do not have a "poor" 5 points, your points are just fine.

[ArtK78]

gwnn, on 2015-December-22, 06:27, said:

Yes it was wrong to pass.

Funny story: I had a 4117 17 count or so. It went

1C-1H
2S-pass

after I made 10 tricks in a 4-3 fit (11 or 12 were easy in clubs), my partner said "why don't you bid 1S, then we can bid on." {he was aware of the fact that 2S was GF or at least F}

This sounds like an old partner of mine, who moved 3000 miles away and I have not seen in quite some time.

Many years ago, on the last hand of a one-session IMP pair event at a Sectional, he and I were defending a vulnerable 4♠ contract. He made a lead, and I encouraged a continuation. He switched and the contract made. Immediately after the hand, he started yelling at me "Why did you encourage? If you had discouraged I would have continued, but since you encouraged I switched!" It took me about 5 minutes or so to get him to calm down and listen to what he was saying. P.S. The difference between 4♠ down one and 4♠ making was the difference between 1st place and 6th place.

[lorserker]

i also have this tendency of making the "clever pass".

i dont remember gaining big victories like this, only looking silly on several occasions.

i still remember that 10 years ago i passed a forcing bid in a relay precision sequence playing with gwnn. the reason why i made an account on BBF is to poll about it because i thought it was clever

another time, playing against a top international we all looked up to i alerted a bid, he asked, and i explained "forcing" after which i immediately passed. everybody looked very disappointed at the end.

the pointis that if you are covered by the system it will not be your fault even if it's wrong. otherwise you will remember your "cleverness" for a long time

[Vampyr]

mike777, on 2015-December-22, 14:46, said:

It seems your 1h was perfectly normal if you play Walsh style and now you have an easy 2nt rebid. You could have so much less.

If your partner wants you to pass 1c with this hand then you can discuss that later in the bar.

You do not have a "poor" 5 points, your points are just fine.

Yes. In fact I think that a hand containing an ace is always good enough to respond.