[mgoetze]

Kungsgeten, on 2015-December-13, 17:59, said:

1C-1D; 1H-2D;
2H = 3 hearts, bal
2S = 4 spades, 2 hearts bal
2N = 3-2-4-4
3m = 3-2-(5-3)
3H = 5+ clubs, 3 hearts, 4 diamonds
3S = 5+ clubs, 3 hearts, 4 spades

I'm not sure it's really worthwhile differentiating 3244 and 32(53) immediately, so perhaps I could just use 3♦/3♠ as splinter-type bids. This would alleviate the trump setting problem (e.g. 1♣-1♦; 1♥-2♦; 3♦-3♠ sets spades). But it could be a memory problem.

Also another question would be whether to use these bids with shapes like 3316/1336.

[jallerton]

fromageGB, on 2015-December-16, 09:13, said:

I wouldn't think completing the transfer should necessarily show a weak hand. As has been said, playing the spade/NT inversion gives you plenty of room for further bids, so 1♣ 1♦ 1♥ 1NT 2♦ can be an unspecifed strength hand with prime spade support and diamond shortage. The problem then is what to bid when partner does NOT have spades. Over 1♠ I think 2♦ would be to play, so the heart support could be shown by 2♥ now. This surely implies a weaker 3 card support with a shortage, as there was no immediate support, and 3♥ is stronger.

A simple method, but would this fit with the rest of the system?

Edit : ...1NT then 2♦ could be the weak splinter, and ...1NT 3♦ the stronger splinter. I use these bids for that purpose with 4 card support for an initial major transfer.

Completing the transfer does show a minimum hand in the context provided by the opening post:

mgoetze, on 2015-December-12, 22:50, said:

Playing Transfer Walsh, the auction begins 1♣-1♦. Definitions for opener's rebid are now

1♥: 2-3 hearts in an 11-13 balanced hand, or exactly 3 hearts, 5+ clubs, 11-15 points.

[mgoetze]

jallerton, on 2015-December-16, 17:24, said:

Completing the transfer does show a minimum hand in the context provided by the opening post:

Yeah that's a pretty fundamental design decision that I'm not really planning to revisit at this point.

[fromageGB]

mgoetze, on 2015-December-16, 17:33, said:

Yeah that's a pretty fundamental design decision that I'm not really planning to revisit at this point.

In that case, just stick with bidding 1♥ on those weak hands. The continuation over 1 inverted ♠ is 2♥ with the diamond shortage hand, and over 1NT is 2♦ splinter in support of spades. No problem. Either way you are showing the hand shape.

At least I would be - I don't know if delayed heart support means something else to you.