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#1 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2015-September-24, 15:17

ok maybe an over-reaction :D but GIB held

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I was just playing a few real quick hands so the result etc doesn't matter but the problem is that as dealer red at imps, gib elects to open this hand 1h rather than 1n. Really??? sure it's 14 points but its ak ak and a super 5 card major - if this isn't an upgrade I'm not sure what is.

I'm not sure if it's possible to programme GIB to upgrade on certain hands, but if it is then it feels like a bug

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Posted 2015-September-24, 15:48

But GIB doesn't auto-1NT on any 5M332 hand in range, does it? If playing a style where you can choose between 1M and 1NT for 15-17 hands then this is a supersuity hand that you want to open 1M.
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Posted 2015-September-25, 00:22

I have never known GIB to stray from 15-17 HCP when opening 1N.
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Posted 2015-September-25, 05:44

View Posteagles123, on 2015-September-24, 15:17, said:

ok maybe an over-reaction :D but GIB held

843
AKT54
AK8
75

I was just playing a few real quick hands so the result etc doesn't matter but the problem is that as dealer red at imps, gib elects to open this hand 1h rather than 1n. Really??? sure it's 14 points but its ak ak and a super 5 card major - if this isn't an upgrade I'm not sure what is.

I'm not sure if it's possible to programme GIB to upgrade on certain hands, but if it is then it feels like a bug

Cheers

Eagles


Its a bad idea to upgrade that hand to 1NT control rich in two suits especially since one is a major.
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Posted 2015-September-26, 13:26

This hand worth an upgrade if partner has 3+♥ and possibly if partner has 4+♦. But unless you open 1♥ you are less likely to find fit.
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Posted 2015-September-27, 23:19

Regardless of the specifics of this hand (AKAK), I think it's interesting that GIB "upgrades" a hand with 17HCP and a 5 card major and says this is too strong to open 1N but it doesn't upgrade 14HCP and a 5 card major to say this is strong enough for 1N.
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