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#21 User is offline   barmar 

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Posted 2015-July-14, 09:03

 Fluffy, on 2015-July-14, 04:53, said:

This are just a few examples of an endless list. Same as with cheaters, shutting up is not working for me, so I have decided to stop shutting my mouth. If someone is ashamed of the naked truth, it is their problem.

That's your prerogative, but this isn't the appropriate place for it.

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Posted 2015-July-14, 12:32

 barmar, on 2015-July-14, 09:03, said:

That's your prerogative, but this isn't the appropriate place for it.

No, it's not. I've removed the names from the post.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 13:38

 Fluffy, on 2015-July-12, 17:54, said:

This hand is from the seconds session in the "International" Open bridge championship in Biarritz (France)

When I called director again he took the hand to review with othe other 2 tournament "international" directors (the 3 of of them french).

Is it surprising that there would be three French directors at a French event? Is it relevant to this case?
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Posted 2015-July-14, 14:01

 gordontd, on 2015-July-14, 13:38, said:

Is it surprising that there would be three French directors at a French event? Is it relevant to this case?

I think the point is that it's labelled an "international" event.

Who's the Tournament Organizer? Who's the Regulating Authority?
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Posted 2015-July-14, 22:13

 blackshoe, on 2015-July-14, 14:01, said:

I think the point is that it's labelled an "international" event.

Who's the Tournament Organizer? Who's the Regulating Authority?

As far as I can tell from the website, it appears to be organised by a committee under the auspices of the FFB. It's "international" in the sense that it actively seeks participation from those from other countries, in the same way as we do in the EBU for our Spring Foursomes and our Summer Meeting at Brighton. At either of those events a ruling would be given by an "English" TD (perhaps in origin from elsewhere) after consultation with other "English" TDs, and I would be unhappy with someone from another country who disliked the ruling implying that the reason was to do with national allegiances.
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Posted 2015-July-15, 01:16

I have never played in england gordon, but from what I gather on this forums from TDs and players I would bet that things would be nowhere close. Still it is not "a ruling" it is a big series of rulings during decades, and some insults as well.

When there are 3 tournament directors it should be expected that at least 1 of them speaks fluent english on an "international" event. When only 2/3 of your players are french you clearly don't need more than 2/3 of your TD to be french.

When 10-20% of the pairs are spannish it might be also worth thinking on hiring someone who is spannish or at least speaks it.
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Posted 2015-July-15, 08:26

 gordontd, on 2015-July-14, 22:13, said:

I would be unhappy with someone from another country who disliked the ruling implying that the reason was to do with national allegiances.

If I were a TD in such an event, I would be unhappy too, but… once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action. There may or may not be anything to Fluffy's allegations, but if there is such a long term pattern of rulings against Spanish players, the question certainly seems worthy of investigation. In the end, though, it may be that just not participating in events where you expect such treatment is the only recourse.
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