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Should I focus on my extras? Or should I focus on my worthless doubletons?

#1 User is offline   bd71 

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Posted 2015-March-07, 15:17



Playing mainstream 2/1.

Objections to X in lieu of 2 are noted...but here we are. Would you bid on?
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Posted 2015-March-07, 15:42

I would pass

game before slam, I note my 2 small spades. Partner did have room to make some other bid than 5d.

will not be shocked if 6d makes.
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Posted 2015-March-07, 15:55

Pass for me.

If partner was really serious surely they'd start with 4?

This just feels like "bid what I think I can make if I catch a decent dummy". Which is what this is. Decent, but not really something to get super excited with. Partner having something like xx AKQxxx Kxxx K maybe?
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Posted 2015-March-07, 16:50

6. Club finese if needed is likely to work and if p is sober we will have only one loser in the other suits. Besides, p could be void in spades.
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Posted 2015-March-07, 17:10

x AQxxxx Kxxxx x and slam is on a finesse

a heart doubleton here is not bad by the way. it's better than three small
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Posted 2015-March-07, 17:11

It depends on what would 4 by pd be. If it is cue for hearts only, then I would consider slam. If it can also be made by fit, then I am passing this.
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Posted 2015-March-07, 18:09

I think making 7 is much more likely than not making 6. I'm making a 6 cue bid. Could partner interpret 6 as natural and to play? With clubs good enough to play opposite a red suit 2 suiter at the 6 level, I think you would have started with 2.

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Objections to X in lieu of 2 are noted...but here we are.


IIRC the Bridge World used say that you are sitting in for a player who had a heart attack after realizing what he had bid the previous round of bidding.

Edit: Think about the lower range you could have had to make a negative double of 1. Partner is never going to play you for anything close to as good as your actual hand. Then, partner could have passed 3 even with 4 mediocre diamonds (at best headed by K10) with a poor playing hand, especially at this vulnerability, or bid 4 diamonds with a better hand. But partner jumped to 5 ruling out those worse hands. So with my prime minor suit cards, and possible ruffing value in hearts, I'm bidding on.
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Posted 2015-March-07, 22:08

Pard cannot have these 4-5 loser hands with a double fit added for 5d and short spades


But if pard is bidding 5d with these hands I guess we will make 6 or 7d.

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Posted 2015-March-09, 06:15

View PostMrAce, on 2015-March-07, 17:11, said:

It depends on what would 4 by pd be. If it is cue for hearts only, then I would consider slam. If it can also be made by fit, then I am passing this.

Doesn't a 4 bid (though not forcing) not already show a good hand, at least in distribution?
Accordingly whatever 4 means, 5 must be an exceptional hand, in particular when his trumps can not be that good and he is missing the club ace too.
Five cards in diamonds are not enough reason to jump to the five level. .
I would never pass here. Of course you need to focus on your extras.
If partner does not have his 5 bid that is his problem.

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Posted 2015-March-09, 06:38

Partner's bidding is consistent with

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AKxxxx
KTxxxx
x

He could have more - the Q, the K, the A and no clubs.

I am bidding 6. Partner may be able to bid the grand if he has this type of hand (or he may not). But I will give it a shot.

I am not passing 5.
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Posted 2015-March-11, 02:22

To answer your question I would not focus on my doubletons. You have great support and a side ace.

This auction is odd. Partner wants to play game but gave us no chance to play 4. The meaning of this might depend on partnership style. It seems to me that either partner has little interest in playing hearts so maybe x56x if that is an allowed 1 opening in your style or 5 should be a significantly stronger hand than 4 since it forces to 5 if responder has to give a preference.

What you do might depend on your style but I am not passing.
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Posted 2015-March-11, 20:44

6. Too much stuff to pass.
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Posted 2015-March-15, 11:46

6D looks normal. If partner has a doubleton spade on this auction he must have considerable extras (or the A).

If these opponents are likely to have raised to 3S in an 8c fit NV, then I might take a different action (and you should've mentioned that in the post!)
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Posted 2015-March-23, 12:19

Partner is definitely showing extras here, even 4 would show some extras. Slam must be making, even seven could be there. I'll try a cue-bid of 6.
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